Thanks for the link. Is this link on the store or was it just sent to members? Just curious because I couldnt find it anywhere. Now have to decide what sub to get since I can get almost the full price for my EWP175 back according to the link anyways. Its between the 350, 400 or the 500 (this is a bedroom system.) probably the 500 that way if I trade up my fronts ever it will still match.