Mojo I will let everyone know....did a very crude test a few days ago with my VP160 mini & noticed a large difference between it and my M80's so I know not a realistic or accurate test but could hear a difference enough 4 me to pull trigger on M80's V4 in walnut with expresso finish.Now to wait the 25 days as is worth the savings will report back

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