NeverHappy, Lorenzo is correct. To get the on screen display, for the 3803/3805, you need an S-video connection (really not much value in upconverting the settings menu). Before I got my 3803, I did a search on "3803" at AVS Forum and picked up a bunch of interesting stuff - most natably this little on screen dispay thing. It's just the way Denon set it up. A bit kludgy, but it works fine.

Ray