macmall.com has an Onkyo 702 refurb right now for $449. this is the new line of Onkyo's, and my 701 is fantastic. and dont let the refurb bother you. these are re-conditioned units that had some sort of problem, was sent back to the factory, then the problem is fixed, and they put them back on the market for quick sale. my 701 was a refurb, and i have had no problems with it what-so-ever. the refurbs still come with a same warrenty as the new ones, and plenty of people on this board have bought them.
if you arent interested in the onkyos, there are plenty of other great deals on macmall.com. go check them out!
bigjohn
