Apd, aside from the fact we apparently have you completely fooled about being friendly , there is some opportunity for recievers to be had.

You can. check ecost for Denon refurb (authorized etailer with a pretty good track record) and pick up a Denon 2105/2805/3805 for a good discount. HK also has their own online store for their refurb equipment. As you might expect, the offerings come and go based on the available inventory.

Don't know what to tell you about Yamaha, Onkyo, etc. opportunities.