Back in the late 'something or other year I was actually attending a public university in Minnesota. The guy across the hall from me in the dorm had a pair of these powered by one of those classic Pioneer silver faced receivers. He liked to brag about his speakers compared to what the rest of the guys on the floor were running. OK, it was a party dorm. I always assumed the real reason he owned them wasn't because they were better, but rather, they were manufactured in his hometown. To make a small story even shorter, this dude eventually became irritated because everyone was mocking his flat speakers. One day he cranked these pups and immediately blue one of them. I guess they just couldn't handle that monster Pioneer. I don't know if they are good or bad, but they look weird. It's the only time in my life I've ever seen a puff of smoke come out of a speaker.