ok, thnx much for your help, i think i might go with the avr 235, unless i can find a better deal within the next two months (this month im buying a new tv, then its on to the speakers and receiver )

M60, VP180, QS-8's
Marantz SR6005
Behringer EP4000
Stereo Integrity Mag 15"
Samsung HLS5087 DLP