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#10743 - 05/09/03 01:09 PM If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do......
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Registered: 05/09/03
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Loc: Brandon, Manitoba
Alright, this may sound like a pretty simple question. If I were to buy a pair of M80ti Axioms for speakers, how do I avoid bi-wiring? I've heard people talk about some sort of a plate or strap between the speaker posts. What do these things look like? Do they come supplied with the speakers?

And if I did choose to bi-wire the speakers, what type of speaker wire do you need. I'm assuming it's a little different than just regular speaker wire??? Or can I just use to separate strands of speaker wire and plug them to the same terminal on the receiver??? If anyone had an example/picture of what this wire looks like, it would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Scott
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#10744 - 05/09/03 01:30 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do......
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Registered: 05/01/03
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Loc: Corona, Calif. USA!!!
I have no idea how to bi-wire those speakers, but my m60s I just bought 2 weeks ago came with the bridging plates already in place. Connection was as simple as any other speaker, and the binding posts seem of high quality.
Regarding speaker wire, I found a funny and informative article at roger-russell.com that states copper wire is copper wire. Expensive speaker wires are a marketing ploy to part us fools from our money. An electrician friend agreed, though the idea had never occurred to him before.
Might as well save some dough.

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#10745 - 05/09/03 03:43 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do....
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Bigwill is right.
You can find PLENTY of info on biwiring within these forums by doing a search.
Ultimately biwiring is a myth and the wire required to do it is more expensive than regular cord.

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#10746 - 05/09/03 04:14 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do......
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Scott, forget about bi-wiring; it's electrically identical to one thicker wire, and as chess commented,one of the audio myths which plague us. As Will pointed out the little metal straps on the speaker terminals connect the two sets of terminals when they're tightened, so that it doesn't make any difference which you connect your speaker wire to.
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#10747 - 05/09/03 05:11 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do......
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I do agree with BigWill on the cheaper/expensive wiring issue. That pretty much solves it for me if they ship the speakers with the bridging plates. I've read lots already on the myth of bi-wiring, I just figured if that was an easier option than trying to find bridges for it...than that's the way I'd go. But it looks like that point is moot.

Thanks again everyone for all the help.

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#10748 - 05/13/03 08:13 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do......
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You may, however, want to replace the bridging plates with a short length of decent speaker wire between binding posts.
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#10749 - 05/16/03 12:26 AM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do....
sushi Offline
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Hmm... Why??? (replacing the plates)

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#10750 - 05/16/03 03:22 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do....
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Because it will sound better to you because I told you it should. :P
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#10751 - 05/16/03 04:32 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do....
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Registered: 10/21/02
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Bi-wiring is normally a myth. I believe most speakers have the bindings internally connected even. But some are totally separate or have no crossover so full range is sent to the tweets and to the woofer. If you take out the connecting plates and just hook to the upper bindings no sound will come out of the woofers for these speakers. I think....

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#10752 - 05/16/03 08:51 PM Re: If I choose not to bi-wire.....and if I do....
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Really depends on what the plates are made of, and whether the gold plating on the plates does any good (other than corrosion resistance).
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