Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater Hey guys, new here with some questions..

First, let me say you guys have a great board here!

Im am new to the whole "Home Theatre" thing although I have always thought I was "in the know" until I started reading these boards and realized I didnt know anything! ha.

I recently bought a Samsung 62'' DLP 1080p TV and I want to compliment it with a great Home Theater system. I have been told Axiom makes a great product and also a great value.

I spoke with a very helpful gentlemen today from axiom customer service and he recomended the Epic Grand Master 350 for my room size.

Would you guys also recomend this system?

My living room size is about 12x15 with 9ft ceilings.

Thanks guys!

By the way, just for reference. This is what my complete system will look like.

The reciever: http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/473.asp

The speaker System: http://www.axiomaudio.com/epicgrandmaster_350main.html

The TV: http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR6178WX%2fXAA

The 985 Denon is the same as the 2805 Denon just marketed through different channels. I bought the 2805 at American Electronics awhile back on employee cost day for around $720 just to give you an idea.

The Epic 350 is the same system I have except I have the M60 floorstanding instead of the 22's. Many people love the 22's and they will do fabulous for HT applications and even music when matched with the sub. You will want to start by setting all the speakers to small on the receiver setup, and then adjust the crossover to the sub at 80hz on the receiver. On the sub you will turn the built in crossover all the way clockwise to its maximum to get it out of the way and let the receiver manage it, also turn the volume on the sub to about 11-12'o clock.

If you listen to a lot of music, you may want to consider the 50's or 60's mains. Don't get me wrong, the 22's WILL perform, you might just get a little better overall bass with the larger main woofers.

Either way you will love these speakers. Another thing to keep in mind is you can order everything from the Factory Outlet as most of us do and save 10% plus if you buy 5 or more speakers you get another 5%. These are still brand new speakers, they may just have very very very slight blemishes. I'm still trying to find some on my setup.

Randy

60s 150 350 4-Qs8's
Denon 2805
Sanyo Z2 Projector
S97S Panasonic DVD
Prismasonic 600M Anamorphic lens
2.35 DIY 10ft wide screen

Welcome to the forum

Actually I have nothing to say about your speaker complement, cause I have all different Axioms(M50s plus M3s) but I would be way off base if I didn't complement you on your title choice!!

With that handle; you've just gotta get Axioms....you just gotta!!!

Hey sirquack, when you say adjust the crossover to 80hz on the reciever. What exactlly does that mean. You have to forgive me, I am very new to all of this. Is this something that is hard to do? Thanks

Hey F107plus5, Im for sure going with axiom!! You cant lose, even if by some chance I didnt like them, they offer that 30 day trial which is great!

I am by no means an expert, heck the rest of these Axiom guys/gals helped me along the way

Anyway, when you set up your system, the sub is designed for LFE (Low Frequency Effects), basically the reaaaaalllll lowwwww bass. You know when your watching an action movie with lots of explosions, when your whole house rocks

The crossover is the frequency in Hertz (Hz) where the low sounds are routed to the sub. If you look at the specifications for the speakers, it will give you a range of frequency that the speaker can achieve. For ex, the M22's are rated I believe down to about 50-60 Hz on the low end, and upto 22kHz. So when you set your speakers to small, it will ask you what crossover setting. 80Hz is a good rule of thumb most follow, I believe THX recommend this setting. Also, setting speaker to small, does not have anything to do with the physical size of the speaker, it is actually the ability for it to reproduce adequate low frequencies.

With the crossover set to 80hz, any music/movie sounds that fall below that will be routed to the sub, anything above that will be played by those speakers.

I miss being a newbie, however, still consider myself a big newbie

thanks sirquack, sounds easy enough. i will probly be back on here asking the same exact question when im setting up the system! lol.

It can be tricky to get stuff all set up right, but the manual and these boards are your friends. We'll get you there.

hey guys, another quick question.

do you guys recommend the FMS stand weights that they offer for the stands? i am ordering a pair of FMS16's and a pair of FMS QS stands, will i need the weights? if so, how many boxes of weights would i need for 4 total stands? thanks

By the way guys, I hope to have all this up and running by the time the SuperBowl comes around. Anyone that is in the North Carolina area (Raleigh) is welcome over to me and my girlfriends new house for a Superbowl party/Home Theater grand opening!

Can't help ya on the stand question, my Qs8's are all ceiling mounted, and the other speakers will be sitting on a stage I'm building for below my screen

damn sirquack, i would like to see that setup. do you have any pics of that system?

i have the older style qs8 stands, and they dont need any extra weight.. they are pretty solid.. depends on if you plan on trying to knock over your speakers a lot or not... :P i have never had a problem with my stands..

Hi New,

The weights are a new product, and I doubt any of us have any experience with them. It would be a good thing to call Axiom and ask them how many boxes of weights, if any, they would recommend. Their customer service is stellar, and they won't try to talk you into more than you need. They are more interested in having a satisfied customer than in making a quick sale.

Here is a link to a thread I started recently.. It has some pics. I'm in the progress of setting up my new HT room in the basement, so i don't have the stage built yet for the mains/center/sub.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=HT&Number=110103&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=



Here is my in progress website http://www.freewebs.com/sirquack

Hey ajax, ya those guys are really helpful. I told the guy I was interested in the big floorstanding front speakers and he told me that would probly be to much for the size room I have. I was surprised because the floor standing models are more expensive. You dont get that kinda honest customer service much anymore. Axiom sure seems like they have there act together, I hope that never changes like so many other big companys. Like when I call for support on my dell computer, I cant even get someone who speaks english anymore! ha

Sirquack, that is awsome man! If you dont mind me asking, how much do you think something like that will cost when its all done? Just want to get an idea incase I wanted to do something like that in the future.

Thanks

Sirquack, another question. On those projecters, if you just want to watch regular HD cable, like say discovery theater or whatever. Can you just watch it with the projecter or is that only for DVD's and such. I watch alot more things like HBOHD, StarzHD, DiscoveryHD, and so on, much more then I watch DVD's. thanks

When I bought my projector, I made sure I bought one that had 720p resolution for HD material. HD material over my HD Local Channel tuner is jaw dropping to say the least on my Z2. There are many projectors out there today that offer 720 or higher resolution.

I bought the Z2 for $1800 when it first came out about a year ago. You can get them now for closer to $1000 as the Z3 has been out awhile and the Z4 is about to hit the market.

I would suggest you go to http://www.projectorcentral.com as it is one of the best websites to understand front projection and LCD versus DLP technologies. Also, they have great reviews on all the projectors.

Anamorphic lens's can be purchased anywhere from about $500 and higher, depending on the model you get. My prismasonic cost me a little over $700 smackers on a recent power buy that AVSforum was having. The screen material cost me about $70 on ebay, and the screen frame was less than $30 in materials I got at menards.

I mean how much will everything be when its all done do you think. All the wood work and equipment and all that. Just so I can kinda get a figure in my head if I ever want to do it. thanks

Wow, not sure I've ever put a $ figure on it all. To be honest, I started the whole remodeling of the basement about a year ago. I have pretty much done everything myself to save money, and just doing a little bit at a time. If I would have hired everything done, man we would have been talking many many thousands, probably closer to 10,000. My ran all the electrical, with help from friends, and my dad and I hung all the drywall. I did have someone come in and mud/texture the walls for me as I've heard horror stories of people trying to do that themselves. You have to understand, I am finishing 3/4 of my basement which includes a bedroom, bathroom, two hallways, and the huge recroom/HT area. It all is about 1800 sq ft. so I'm not sure I can put a $ ammount on just the HT area. I've probably spent at least 3 grand so far on the entire project.

ok, i got ya. it would cost me more because im not very good at the handy stuff. im good when it comes to electronics and such but when it comes to building something forget about it. it would look like a 3rd grader built it. lol

Before I finished my basement, I had never run electrical, framed a wall, hung drywall. About the only thing I had experience was painting, and I hate painting You would be suprised on what you can do yourself and save big Cash..

I have a similar sized room and the pretty much the exact setup you are looking at, a Denon AVR-2805 and the EGM-350. I can say that you would be thrilled with that setup. I have listened to the system at unbelievable SPL's not even realizing how loud it was because of the clarity. Really a very nice setup at an unbelievably low price. Although I'm resisting the temptation to upgrade to the M60's, because they are shiny and new and bigger...

Mark - good to see you!!

You'll LOVE the M60's. They are great. Really. And they come with that New Speaker Smell and everything. You should get them. They'd make you happy. You deserve it.

Tom,

First I have to try the "I think we need 7.1" so I can get some M3's for the rears. Then it's time for the big tv. THEN the M22's will look too puny and helpless next to the 55" tv, so they can be moved into my office where they will be safe and warm while the M60's take their place...

...then the new TV and all the other new gear just won't perform right without a DVD-2910 or 3910. Now my current room will just be too small for the setup and we'll just have to finally bite the bullet and move into the new house we've been looking for that has a spare room for HT. Then the room will be a little too big so I'll need to go up to the 3805 and M80's...

I'm SO relieved that you've thought this through and have a cogent plan. Except you forgot the beer.