Get Free, Friendly, Expert Advice
Call 1-866-244-8796 or email

Designed and Manufactured in Canada Since 1980


AxiomAudio Blog

Positioning Floorstanding Speakers

Our Newest Flagship Model: The M100

Why We Make Our Own Drivers

Wall'O'Fame
"Serenity Cinema", now with 40% extra Serenity!
Updated as requested.
Who's Online
1 registered (Dundas), 147 Guests and 16 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Financing
Forum Stats
12679 Members
11 Forums
22680 Topics
400419 Posts

Max Online: 378 @ 02/24/13 04:33 PM
Top Posters
Ken.C 17695
pmbuko 16222
SirQuack 13311
CV 11056
MarkSJohnson 10670
Meanwhile On Facebook

8| Don't miss Andrew Welker's post on our message boards about the new subwoofer...

󾓲 The April Newsletter is out! Did you get your copy? http://www.axiomaudio.co...

Double-take! :O How well do you know our line? First one to spot the surprise...

Page 8 of 8 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#116196 - 11/20/05 04:01 AM Re: Your argument is highly illogical, captain.
JohnK Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10305
Yes, it's been told many times, Peter, but you notice that the bottom line is carefully avoided by those who claim to hear these things, i.e. "Prove it". Maybe the classic Stereo Review blind test should be noted again, especially the certainty of hearing differences which were described in open listening before the test compared with the random results shown during the testing. Again(and again, and again...)when the amplifiers have a flat frequency response and adequately low noise and distortion(all available at quite low cost)and the listening level is within 0.1dB for all, listeners can't distinguish between them, regardless of brand or cost. Where one or more of those factors are inadequate in some poorly-designed units(e.g. some tube amps)then a difference may be audible, but it would be as a result of measurable differences in those basic parameters, which instruments detect at levels far below human audibility.
_________________________
-----------------------------------

Enjoy the music, not the equipment.



Top
#116197 - 11/20/05 10:57 AM Re: Your argument is highly illogical, captain.
2x6spds Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
I know that for me, I've gone through a lot of equipment before coming up with systems I'm finally happy with.

I don't think the audio experience is about "proving" anything. You enjoy your stats and conviction that all CDPs, DVDPs and amps sound the same. I'll enjoy the music.


_________________________
Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.

Top
#116198 - 11/20/05 12:03 PM Re: Your argument is highly illogical, captain.
tigweld Offline
buff

Registered: 10/14/04
Posts: 42
It would be interesting to see if the results changed if the listeners were picked based on their listening experience (such as amplifier or speaker designers). Individuals with ears trained to listen for details. After all, the top 3 percentage right scores in that test were from believers.

Top
#116199 - 11/20/05 08:27 PM Re: Your argument is highly illogical, captain.
michael_d Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3820
Loc: Up yonder
Might I suggest you look at the Harman Kardon 3480 and pair it up with the M60s.I think you would be better served with the bulk of the budget going towards speakers.The 3480 is a fine unit and will drive the M60s great.

After rereading this are you saying you already have M22s ? The wording is a bit confusing to me.

Rick

------------------

Cbee,

This was the best advise on this string.

While the rest continue fighting over perception and opinion, just get the combo Rick sugested and you will be a happy camper.
_________________________


Top
#116200 - 11/21/05 10:59 AM Re: help with stereo choice
oz350z Offline
aficionado

Registered: 05/31/05
Posts: 562
Loc: Atlanta
Mark
Could you please link to any reviews or feeback on this unit. I am very interested in amplifying my signal from the computer to a bookshelf setup . I will probably go with Epos or M3ti's. I like the idea of a USB connection.
Thanks,
oz
_________________________
"Life is what happens while your busy making other plans" John Lennon

Top
#116201 - 11/21/05 05:08 PM Re: help with stereo choice
cbee Offline
frequent flier

Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 12
The Harman Kardon 3480 does look good. OK, yet another question. While the new outlaw receiver may be a little more than I want to spend (esp. if I want those M60s) it does have one feature I like: the usb input. This would save me about $100 for the separate usb dac. Now, the JVC RX-D201S is a 100 wpc (more than enough) surround sound receiver with a usb input for only $200, cheaper than the hk. Of course I would only be using this for stereo for now (read, next couple of years).

So, if (as the stereo review so controversially stated) all these receivers sound fairly alike, is there any reason not to go with this one? I get upgrade possibilities to surround, the usb input, and enough power for the speakers, all for $200. What am I missing?

Cisco



Top
#116202 - 11/21/05 07:59 PM Re: help with stereo choice
md55 Offline
local

Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 284
Loc: Nevada City, CA
_________________________
Mark

Top
#116203 - 11/21/05 08:55 PM Re: help with stereo choice
cbee Offline
frequent flier

Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 12
But the outlaw is $400 more than the JVC. What am I getting for the extra money?

Cisco

Top
#116204 - 11/21/05 11:28 PM Re: help with stereo choice
oz350z Offline
aficionado

Registered: 05/31/05
Posts: 562
Loc: Atlanta
Sorry, you misunderstood me. I wanted links to reviews or this positive feedback that you mentioned reading on the reciever.
I had seen the company spec sheet the first time you posted it.
oz
_________________________
"Life is what happens while your busy making other plans" John Lennon

Top
Page 8 of 8 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8



Moderator:  alan, Amie, Andrew, axiomadmin, Brent, Debbie, Ian, Jc 

Home  |  Corporate Info  |  Products  |  Message Board  |  FAQs  |  Warranty  |  Site Map  |  Privacy Statement   |  Contact Us

©2014 Colquhoun Audio Laboratories Limited
All Rights Reserved.