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Hey Rat,
You sure like yelling a lot with all your capitals and exclamation points. All bark and, well you know the rest all too well I'm sure.

Again, this is a matter about which there shouldn't be rational debate. Speaker cables serve simply as a rail for guiding an electromagnetic wave to its destination. The portion of the wave that penetrates into the cable is lost as heat and takes no direct part in the sound which results. Varying metals, twists, etc. can have no effect separate from the resistance which causes some of the power in the wave to be drawn into the wire and lost. This has been well-known for decades and subjective illusions to the contrary collapse when put to the only test in which it's actually necessary to "trust your ears", i.e. a blind listening test.

John: I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!

But, there are some, who will ALWAYS claim otherwise.

We have beat this poor, dead horse many times on this board. Same thing on other boards!

Have a GREAT Sunday.

End of discussion.

I personally do not understand the sense in beating up on somebody simply because they think otherwise than ourselves.

How's that go...

".....if you ain't got anything good to say, don't say nothing at all."

Bob: have you ever watched the movie "Forrest Gump?" In it I believe that there is a scene where someone says something to the effect "Stupid is what stupid does!" I liked that saying because I think that it says a lot about people in general and human nature in specific.

I have posted on this and other boards that everyone is entitled to their opinion, EVEN IF IT IS WRONG! That's what our great North American nations are based on.

There is engineering fact when it comes to speaker cables and then there is charlatan fiction when it comes to speaker cables. Opinion is NOT necessarily the same as fact.

I am not interested in a flame war or anything like it. The electronic engineer in me is simply tired of all the BS about speaker cables/ wires which is nothing more, at best, than absolutely wrong opinion.

Peace and have a GREAT day.

ratpack, may I remind you than opinions deal more in the realm of personal experience than in the blacks and whites of truth and fiction. An opinion is more like a feeling. There's much more that goes into an opinion than measurable reality. Emotion and preconceptions have just as much to do with opinions as cold hard facts.

Browbeating people with your 'absolutely correct opinion' isn't doing anything to put this debate to rest.

Ok....when it comes to cables, I'm a definate "outsider" here. I am currently running my mains and center on some hand-me-down 14G wires my near-son-in-law was pitching out and thought I might need. I slapped a meter on them and, finding no shorts or opens, slipped them twixt my speakers and receiver to replace the 22G(may be 24G, but I don't feel like climbing up there again to check for sure)I was using from the old HTIB days.

....the surrounds are Still on the fishline stuff.

I have accidently(Ok...and sometimes on purpose)run across a number of articles on snake-oil as well as honest wires, and I often see references to varrying capacitances and inductances. (resistances too, but, big deal)

Question:

WILL a change in inductance and capacitance induced by those cute, but horribly expensive doo-dads added into the equally expensive boutique stranded or solid "cables" manifest itself, no matter how little, in a variation in sound produced, compared to straight sane good quality wires??

I have gotten the impression.....not enough to form an opinion....that a differences, though it may be small, does(maybe)exist.

And that the difference is "usually" detrimental.

I do know that having clean connections does help, not as much as in the old days with cast iron hardware, but helpfull none the less.

I also get the impression looking out the window that the world is flat....but then I wander down to the coast and see the boats slide off the edge....

pmb: I'm going to give this topic a rest.

I'm not going to change anyone's mind (opinion) with facts. That's quite obvious and OK.

No!! Don't rest!! Wake it back up!!

Give us your engineering facts so that we Can put it to rest!!







....I did a quick search and couldn't find 'em.

May it "rest" in peace.

LOL!!