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Re: Best AVReceiver under 1000$? consideration wit
#134343 04/26/06 02:06 PM
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thanks wid & tom, I'll have a look at the onkyo amp

I guess I need to research the whole OHM situation as that onkyo is 100 watt at 8 ohm while the kenwood kmf-x9000 is 130 watt at 6 ohm. yet another thing to confuse me n00b wee brain. anyone else wanna chime in? feel free

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The Kenwood seems to be a very capable European model. I don't see any reason why it would not work for you.

The Onkyo is rated 125W@6ohms, so you should not be able to perceive any meaningful difference in SPL between the two.

Honestly, I don't think your Yamaha is going to have trouble driving the M80's. If it does, you could shop either one of these amps on price and feel comfortable. But that's just my opinion.

I'll leave the EE's to explain Ohm's law.


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Re: Best AVReceiver under 1000$? consideration wit
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found a bit of "ohm" info here http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/avhardware/receivers.php#impedance_selector

scroll down to
What Doesn't Matter?
Impedance Selector Switches

hope this may aid some others of you , that sail in the same boat as me.

..... so, beside my concerns of this and that, i have been compounding my own frustration with the fact that , the more I learn , it seems the more money I'm gonna be spending. THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM. what was initially a 1600$ output is now looking more like 2700$ and with that being said, **the big things with me are getting the most for my $$$ and making informed purchase decisions.** as it now looks I have much more reading and question asking to do here and there, cause at nearly 3000$ I would be foolish to not look at other setups that will compare with the axioms. Believe it or not although this is the axiom forum I believe I can get honest answers and reccomendations here, thats why I ask.
Looks like a new thead in my future.

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#134347 04/26/06 07:42 PM
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Can you break that down for us? And what were you originally looking at before the M80 maniacs got to you?


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#134348 04/26/06 08:09 PM
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break down what exactly?

originally when I read about axioms at audioholics it was from there 5000$ HT system, then looking at axiom page the the epic grand master 175 was what I was looking at initially, then as I read and from what others said , I increasingly wanted MORE. then I was up to m22's vp150 qs8's and the ep350 and what i am looking at now the epic 80-500 its gonna run me JUST shy of 3000$.

so the higher the dollar amount has made me HAVE to look into all my options, just as anyone would do i should think, with spending this much money. afterall if your in the market for a 450$ set of speaker and then increase what your are gonna spend to 950$ speakers u have ALOT more to consider for purchase.

It is somewhat overwhelming. At times to the point I feel like I'm chasing my own tail, and getting NOwhere. Mind u I feel I am learning from the wisdom shared by others, don't get me wrong there. I appeciate all input from EVERYone. I hope that has "broken" it down a bit. Does my frustration show? I at times wanna just say F**K IT! and live with the setup I have now.

That being said , here is an example of what I mean about more choices ,the PBS Image 65T "command performance system" is one of these considerations that at $2995 needs to be researched. see now it was NOT an option when I was only gonna spend nearer 2000$ than 3000$.

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OK, you're letting the mentality of certain people around here get to you. You do NOT necessarily need MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE. Look at your room size. Look at your budget. If you get 8 ohm speakers, surprise, you won't need to spend so much on amplification. If you buy in pieces, you'll be able to afford it better. Maybe you stick with the M22s; they're excellent speakers. Maybe you get a Hsu or SVS instead of the 350 or the 500.

People seem to naturally gravitate towards advising other people to get what they have. Yes, the 80s are fantastic. Yes, the 500 is fantastic. But can you upgrade to those items later? Can you really afford them now? I certainly couldn't. I'm very happy with my M50s, and my old Cambridge Soundworks sub. Would I be happier with 80s and a 500? Probably, but...


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kcarlile is right.

If you want to stay in a budget for a room size, then go with the "HT Wizard" above. You'll get a good recommendation for your room size and budget.

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OK, you're letting the mentality of certain people around here get to you. You do NOT necessarily need MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE.




The only referances I see about this is from answering questions that Stoney has asked. I believe he was the one asking the questions about the Yamaha and the M80s. Would it have been better to just ignore the questions when asked?




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Re: Best AVReceiver under 1000$? consideration wit
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All I'm saying is that there seems to be an attitude that everyone needs M80s. Not everyone needs M80s. And granted, I had not read the thread; just responding to the desperation in Stoney's post and the general feel I've gotten lately. I don't think it's better to ignore the questions, but when someone shows up talking about M22s, why do we necessarily steer them towards something else?


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