 Re: Say no to straws
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Re: Say no to straws
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(70% as efficient as gasoline, therefore not a great alternative fuel).
Ken, I don't want to seem like i'm attacking you on that quote, but those numbers are actually very, very incorrect and quite misleading. They came as a result of a single study about 10 years ago, but the mathematics were severely flawed and the study results have since been discredited. Numerous other studies have been released in the past number of years proving the energy gain of ethanol production. Plus there have been major advancements in ethanol production since then which has allowed effeciency to end up some where around 120 or 130% (i've got old emails on this but i'm too lazy to dig up - suffice is to say there is definitely a net energy gain). As well, ethanol has been used to replace MTBE in fuel which was a known carcinogen. Plus it is good for farmers. Win - win - win. To be honest the largest net energy gain available from biofuels is contained in biodiesel, which has exploded in Europe but is slowly being adopted in North America. 
Again my apologies for seeming to pounce on this, but i work in the ag industry so it's one of the very few things in life that i know anything about! 
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OK, fair enough. I was just getting it out of car mags.
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I think I read the same mag(s). Car and Driver likes to push their agendas, that's fer shure.
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Not trying to tweak you, Scott... but I just wonder why everyone I know swears they get maybe about 20% less mileage off ethanol blends... I know I get about 650km on a tank of pure dinosaur farts and about 500km on a tank of Mohawk.
Smells like something's a bit fishy between the combine and the carb.
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Anyone else find it funny that this is a long thread about straws?
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I think it's a great thread. My wife is always trying to give me a hard time because I prefer not to use a straw. She thinks I'm wierd, but now I can show her this thread and prove to her the benefits of not using a straw! I could show her, but our home computer died and so she has no Internet. And my new Dell I ordered on 9/15 hasn't even shipped yet Not sure what the holdup is. It was supposed to ship yesterday and didn't, and no word as to why. She is going crazy without the computer 
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For health reasons, after I hit 40, I have limited my intake of fluids to 1:Water. 2:Coffee. 3:Alcohol Not necessarily in that order, and NEVER with straws 
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I did much the same thing, but mostly because I found I only *liked* water, coffee and alcohol 
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I have to admit, I half expected this topic to just go on down the list with zero replies. That's why I love the internet, you can say whatever you want and just change your screen name if it doesn't work out, haha. I like this forum...
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