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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
real80sman #157768 02/09/07 01:54 AM
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...and .162% hoser. That's actually pretty low, when you thing about it, so don't even think of being insulted.

Re: M80 as Center Channel?
KevinM #157769 02/09/07 02:27 AM
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Kevin, I'd suggest that you first try one M22 there, which you may find to be very satisfactory. If you want more output you can later add a second M22, as others have indicated.


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I have thought about this also. We would need some sort of wicked wall-mount bracket or a really big stand for it. How would you envision mounting it or were you thinking of just putting it sideways on the floor?




IMO It would probably fit in 75% or so of the normal horizontal center locations with little modification. I think the VP150 matches the M60's better and that is the reason some prefer the M60's over the M80's. Implementing a horizontal M60 or M80 design would not be a bad idea in any aspect.

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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
real80sman #157771 02/09/07 04:50 AM
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Shawn, I was just joshing. It was just one of those amusing, surprising moments like when you realize it took 50 years for somebody to think of putting wheels on an ice-chest. Yours was an innovative solution. You know (slaps forehead) I coulda had a V-8? Duh points for me. Sorry it came out wrong.


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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
pmbuko #157772 02/09/07 11:25 AM
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...and .162% hoser. That's actually pretty low, when you thing about it, so don't even think of being insulted.




Insulted??? Bring it on - you guys can't touch me. May I introduce, my wife.

(And I'm a WAY bigger hoser than 0.162%)


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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
JohnK #157773 02/09/07 01:43 PM
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Adding a pair of bookshelves sounds at least like a good temporary solution. M3's are even cheaper than a VP150 and I could always use them someplace else (presence?) later on. I did say temporary though so someone still needs to convince Axiom to create a larger more full ranged center, other wise I might have to vault my ceiling and create an extra foot of vertical space for the M80 or dare I say get smaller screen? (somehow, in my mind, it seems entirely easier and less demeaning to wait on Axiom!)

So, if I do go the route of the bookshelves I would need to compare the M3 and M22. On paper they have the same frequency responses but I've heard around these forums that in actual use the M3 has a little more low end, would anyone like to share their experience on that? I think that if I were to go the route of using bookshelves at the center for SACD/DVDA multichannel (no sub engaged) I would notice the lack of low end more than the midrange.

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So, if I do go the route of the bookshelves I would need to compare the M3 and M22. On paper they have the same frequency responses but I've heard around these forums that in actual use the M3 has a little more low end, would anyone like to share their experience on that? I think that if I were to go the route of using bookshelves at the center for SACD/DVDA multichannel (no sub engaged) I would notice the lack of low end more than the midrange.




As you noted they have the same frequency response, so how does the M3 get credit for more bass? It is the hump in the curve that pushes the bass to the front and gives the impression of more bass. I have M22's and they are very good in the bass department and extremely detailed.

Forgot to add that you could try 2 M80's on their sides with the tweeters at opposite ends from each other.

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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
jakewash #157775 02/09/07 05:05 PM
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As you noted they have the same frequency response, so how does the M3 get credit for more bass?



That really is my question. Or is it the midrange that differs? Anyone own both pairs and done a comparison?

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Forgot to add that you could try 2 M80's on their sides with the tweeters at opposite ends from each other.


Now theres an idea! Might have to get a few more amps and a additional power line!

Re: M80 as Center Channel?
KevinM #157776 02/09/07 05:32 PM
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Kevin,

Let me say that the M3s in parallel sound awsome for a centre channel in 5.1. I have not used them in any SACD scenario (yet), so I can't comment on that.


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Re: M80 as Center Channel?
Hutzal #157777 02/09/07 05:41 PM
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Let me say that the M3s in parallel sound awsome for a centre channel in 5.1. I have not used them in any SACD scenario (yet), so I can't comment on that.




Hutzal, sounds interesting. I'll have to do a back to back comparison between the M3's and the VP150 when the family isn't around. Do you have them above, below, or to the sides of the TV? Together or separated?


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