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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
BIGNORM #162992 03/30/07 04:02 PM
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LOL! Since I'm from Ohio, allow me to translate for Norm. "I briefly owned M22s, but I didn't care for them. I found I liked Paradigm better. But, that is merely my OPINION. YMMV."


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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
Ajax #162993 03/30/07 04:16 PM
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LOL! Since I'm from Ohio, allow me to translate for Norm. "I briefly owned M22s, but I didn't care for them. I found I liked Paradigm better. But, that is merely my OPINION. YMMV."




I dont need you to translate for me.....Paradigm is simply a better sounding speaker


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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
BIGNORM #162994 03/30/07 04:55 PM
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I dont need you to translate for me.....Paradigm is simply a better sounding speaker




hmmm, its good to know that you don't think your opinion is an opinion, yet a stated fact. Many say the opposite, what makes you so right? Why should you opinion matter more than others?


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Hutzal #162995 03/30/07 04:59 PM
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Why should you opinion matter more than others?




Because he's big norm. And don't forget it.


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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
real80sman #162996 03/30/07 05:25 PM
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Because he's big norm. And don't forget it.




I wouldn't mess with Bignorm. Er...I mean BigWorm...





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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
jtk #162997 03/30/07 07:22 PM
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From my experience with the M22's, I'd give them the nod over the Paradigm Monitor series. From the midrange and up, they compare favorably with Paradigm's more expensive models.

Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
jtk #162998 03/30/07 07:46 PM
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My $.02....

Before purchasing my M80's, my wife and I spent 3 months actively seeking out other speakers to try before just blindly throwing more money at Axiom. I had been reasonably happy with my m22's for a couple of years, but I wanted the presence and soundstage that come with floor standers.

I won't bore you with the details of all of the other speakers we listened to. Paradigm was very high on my list of speakers to try based on reviews and comments that they're a lot like Axiom. I have listened to the Reference Studio 20 and the RS-100's at a Paradigm dealer. NAD CD player, prepro, and amp provided the juice, which is all completely different from what I have at home. That alone makes the comparison somewhat invalid but the NAD stuff is about 3 times the price of what I have.

To our ears, the Reference Stuio 20's sounded quite a bit like the m22's, but with more bass and a little bit more midrange warmth. Some like that, some hate that. Very similar, maybe even a bit more pleasant sounding than M22's, but they're also about 2 times the price.

We weren't looking for bookshelves, so we went straight for the RS-100's next. We were impressed with the presence and soundstage. They looked great and sounded nice and powerful with lots of low and midrange force. Highs were also there, but were a bit too piercing. Too much sibilance for my liking. Bass was deep and powerful, and the midrange was clean with just a hint of warmth like the 20's. Now I don't mind a bit of midrange warmth, but some purists will say that they're too 'colored'. My wife (who was really rooting for the B&W 703's) didn't really like them but I thought they sounded pretty good.

In the end, we decided to go ahead and order the M80's with the full intention of returning them if they didn't meet our expectations. They absolutely exceeded our expectations and sound very similar to other 'good' speakers we listened to at twice the price or more. M80's are about 1/3rd the cost of the B&W 703's, and about 1/2 the cost of the Paradigm RS-100's, but can absolutely compete with either of those. Sonically, are they better than the others? No, not really. To my ears, M80's sound awfully similar for a whole lot less money, and that sealed the deal for me. At this level, it's really just a personal preference and getting that Nth decimal position of 'betterness'. To get something 'blown out of the water' better will require a significant investment to push into the serious audiophile level.

I don't claim to be a speaker expert, but I've heard quite a few of them ranging from $10 Kracos to $40,000 Dynaudio Evidence Masters. The least expensive speakers I've ever heard that could be described as 'blowing M80's out of the water' are my buddy's $10k+/pair B&W 801's.


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Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
BIGNORM #162999 03/31/07 12:38 AM
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I owned the M22 (briefly) and there is NO WAY Axiom compares to Paradigm!!! Paradigm Reference simply blows Axiom out of the water




Now Norm, did you mean Paradigm or did you mean Polk?

Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
BIGNORM #163000 03/31/07 12:39 AM
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It must be true. Why else would someone use three exclamation points?

Re: Axiom compared to Paradigm
jtk #163001 03/31/07 06:16 AM
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My dad bought the Paradigm Studio 60s few years ago, I bought Axiom M60s since they were cheaper. To be honest I've listened to both on same equipment and swap speakers and they sound very very similiar to me. While I think the Axiom has more forward sound, the paradigm has little more bass. My dad has Denon receiver and I have rotel amp and it seemed that the paradigm didn't open up much in lower volumes unless you cranked it up some while you can hear the Axioms better at lower volumes, not sure why. Both are good quality speakers but you get more sound for your money with Axioms in my opinion. Either way, you can't go wrong. By the way my dad went with QS8s for surrounds and they blend perfectly with his paradigm studio 60s.


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