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Do you also do the first relection points on the 4 QS8 surrounds ? Or do you want it to reflect
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I would say you want it to reflect. Generally, don't treat the back half of the room, except maybe for the 1st reflection of the front speakers (back wall).
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I would not worry about it. There are some that treat their front wall as potentially the surrounds could reflect from them.
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Ok so do the first reflection points for the front three, but do not worry about the rear/side channels.
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In my opinion it is much more important to treat the corners of your room with "bass traps" first, and then follow up at some point by treating the first reflection points for the highs/mids. But that is just me.
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In my opinion it is much more important to treat the corners of your room with "bass traps" first, and then follow up at some point by treating the first reflection points for the highs/mids. But that is just me.
I agree.
Hopefully I will be able to do some treatments in the next couple months in my room.
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I am seriously thinking on installing the Owens Corning Basement Finishing SystemThey had a demo room set up at a local home show, and it was amazing how quiet the room was in this noisy arena. Do you think that the room would be "too" dead with this? Would I end up having to install some hard reflective panels? I really like the fact that the baseboards just snap on and off, and there is a channel that wires can be ran in. It would make sub placement and re-location very easy.
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Sir The corner basstraps, I see them in your room do they really make that much of a diffence ? how, why would sound go to a corner ? what are your traps made out of ?
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Thanks for pointing out the first reflections software. Its a nifty way to examine where to place treatments. One of my weekend projects is to rework several panels in my HT. I came across this recent article which puts another spin on how and whether to treat walls based on the size of the room and how we perceive reverberation. The upshot is that in certain rooms too much treatment at first reflections may not make the sound more pleasant since it can effect reverberation in a negative way. http://www.audioholics.com/education/aco...ent-perspective
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Sir The corner basstraps, I see them in your room do they really make that much of a diffence ? how, why would sound go to a corner ? what are your traps made out of ?
Bass frequency nodes gather in every corner in the room. When you put up a trap (Owens Corning 703 4" works well) it traps those nodes instead of them bouncing back into the room making a mess of your bass response.
The result is much cleaner sounding bass with more clarity. It helps alot in smaller rooms (mine is 15'10" x 14' 5" x 7'6"). I desperatly need some bass traps in my room. Since I just got the Axiom system (about 2 months ago) I am totally stoked about how they sound now and don't even notice it because it ALL sounds good to me now.
Af.ter I get some treatments I will notice how much it actually cleans up the overall sound.
goto ethanwiner.com for more info on room treatments.
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