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#166206 - 04/24/07 10:57 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: pmbuko]
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That is fantastic.

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#166207 - 04/24/07 10:59 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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Oh snap, my bad! My apologises for the misunderstanding. I often get their model numbers mixed up sometimes.

Sorry about that.

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#166208 - 04/24/07 10:59 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: richeydog]
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Indeed.

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I don't think he ever said he is returning the amp...

EDIT: Ya beat me by mere seconds.



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#166209 - 04/24/07 11:01 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: Sutter Cane]
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Not a problem what so ever. No apologies needed. All of their gear is named similarly. Easy enough to get them confused.

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Oh snap, my bad! My apologises for the misunderstanding. I often get their model numbers mixed up sometimes.

Sorry about that.



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#166210 - 04/25/07 12:26 AM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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No, no, I still have my LPA-1, which is their low-priced 7 channel amp. I really like it. I have have had zero shutdown problems driving my M80's at *stupid-loud* volume levels. The amp I am keeping, most definitely. For $500, I'd highly recommend it!






Are you running the speakers on small or large setting?

I was able to shut my LPA-1 down driving M80s after about an hour of watching the Matrix at pretty damn high SPL...my ears were just starting to distort. This was a setting of 'large' on the mains. Of course the thing arc welded itself the next day...so the shutdown may of had something to do with whatever was defective

I will do some more testing in the morning.

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#166211 - 04/25/07 08:50 AM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: bhull]
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All speakers set to 'small', crossover at 50hz. 3200cu ft room. Bi-amped M80's, if that makes a difference.

I'm sure there is a point at which the LPA-1 will shut down. There is for any amp. I suppose I could crank it way up and then just leave the room until it shuts down, but that's a bit silly. For what I would consider *loud* listening, 90-100db in my seat, I've listened to 2 channel music for more than an hour or two with no problems. The amp was certainly warm to the touch. Any lounder than that just isn't enjoyable to me - it's too loud.

Last weekend my wife and I watched 2, 2+ hour movies back-to-back at 'loud' levels. Eragon and Master & Commander (again). Driving all 7 channels (4x to M80's, center, surrounds) and the amp was definitely warm after the evenings viewing, but no sign of distress.




Edited by PeterChenoweth (04/25/07 09:16 AM)
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#166212 - 05/02/07 11:23 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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Wait, I didn't know you could biamp the M80's with 4 channels from the LPA-1. How does that work? Do you notice a difference?
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#166213 - 05/02/07 11:50 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: Scuffernoose]
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Well sure. I believe I am passively Bi-amping. Many would argue that there is no benefit to doing it this way, but it's what I'm doing...

Each front channel pre-out is split from my AVR using a high quality RCA splitter, and then a pair of interconnects runs to the amp for each channel. My M80's are wired with Canare 4S11 cable, so it was easy enough to power each 'half' of each channel with one of the LPA's amps.

Do I notice a difference? That's tricky, but I think so.

Here's what I did. I bi-amped my right M80, and left my left M80 bi-wired. I then set both speakers to Large, and shut my sub off (just to be sure). Then I played some music, shuffling the balance around to see if I noticed a difference. Now of course, there's one glaring variable here and that's if there's different levels mixed in each channel. But for my purposes, the tracks were close enough. For the record, I listened to many tracks from Norah Jones, Come Away With Me via 2-channel SACD.

I prefered the bi-amped. For some reason it just felt like there was more bass response. At the same volume level, I seemed to be able to feel more bass being transmitted through the floor from the bi-amped one. I sort of thought that her voice was just a bit more clearer on the high, loud notes on the bi-amped M80.

Then, just for fun, I disconnected both single pre-outs from the back of my receiver, and dropped them behind my rats-nest of an AV rack. Walked away, had a glass of lemonade, and came back. I reached around and found the cables in the dim recesses behind my Av rack. Without looking to see which is which, I reconnected them to my AVR/PrePro, again, not having any idea which channel was which. Yeah, I did it by feel.

I could not tell a difference in the high notes. I tried, and sometimes would like the left, and then change my mind. I *might* have though that the left sounded a bit better. But really, honestly, I couldn't pick out a difference in mid/high range. But my left speaker did seem to have just a touch more authority in the bass department. Not a lot, but enough that I could feel that it was vibrating my floor a bit more than the other. Sounded a bit 'fuller'. I 'voted' that the left speaker was now the bi-amped. Tracing my cables back, I was indeed correct. I had a 50/50 shot at getting it correct.

So I corrected the L/R cable, and bi-wired the other M80.

So there it is. Completely unscientific, probably somehow completely biased, but I like it this way. The only drawback is that my LPA seems to get a bit hotter than it used to. No problems with shutdown, but it's definitely warmer than it used to be at comparable volume levels.

So now, channels 1-4 are powering the fronts, 5 is the center, and the smaller 6+7 are powering my surrounds. No problems what-so-ever (there were a few reports of humming on the 6/7 channels when using all 7 channels of the LPA), and it all sounds fantastic, if I do say so myself.


Edited by PeterChenoweth (05/02/07 11:57 PM)
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#166214 - 05/02/07 11:57 PM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: PeterChenoweth]
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Interesting, thank you for your detailed response. Reading your posts has been a big part in me deciding to get the LMC-1/LPA-1 combo for a pair of M80's. I think this will be a good match for me as music is my thing.
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#166215 - 05/03/07 12:03 AM Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review [Re: Scuffernoose]
PeterChenoweth Offline
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Posts: 1349
Loc: Jacksonville, IL
Good luck with the purchase. Happy to have helped.

IMHO, for music the LMC/LPA combo is unbeatable for the price. It's not the best as an AV pre-pro, but for music, it's fantastic.

Now I gotta go email Dan about my commission .

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Interesting, thank you for your detailed response. Reading your posts has been a big part in me deciding to get the LMC-1/LPA-1 combo for a pair of M80's. I think this will be a good match for me as music is my thing.





Edited by PeterChenoweth (05/03/07 12:04 AM)
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