Re: Axiom Center Speaker with 6.5 woofer??
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Doug thanks...I'm curious, did you ever try a vp100 or 150 prior to using m3's? I'm curious about a comparison of m3/80's or m22/80's or vp150/80's....
My original setup was 60s with the 150. I changed out the 60s for 80s in the 30 day period. It was 6 months or more before I had the funds to buy the M3s. I was just testing and bought the pair because I knew I could use them elsewhere in the house if I didn't like their sound as a center. I liked the sound of the M3 and two M3s even better above and below the tv.
Just in the last two months I contacted Amie and traded the 150 for another pair of M3s and bought the Outdoor model at the same time.
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Re: Axiom Center Speaker with 6.5 woofer??
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I use M3s (one above and one below, both horizontal) for centers. Love them.
After my M80s, my favorite speaker is the M3. I now own 3 pair.
Doug
I recently got some M3's and think they sound great, but I find that they have a real tonal difference from the rest of my system. I'm guessing you don't or you wouldn't be using them?
I thought that the M2 was supposed to be a better match for the 22's, 60's & 80's??
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Doug thanks...I'm curious, did you ever try a vp100 or 150 prior to using m3's? I'm curious about a comparison of m3/80's or m22/80's or vp150/80's....
I’ve tried M3’s paired with M80’s and then the M22’s with the M80’s. Either I’m tone deaf or there was no difference. They both sound / blend very well with the M80’s. The biggest issue I had was their placement. Too close together and the center channel sucked any where but right in front of the speaker. Too far away from each other and the center channel dialogue became confusing to me. At around 30” apart from each other, the center channel sounds great at all locations of the room.
I’ve been considering swapping out the M22’s with two VP150’s for no better reason than curiosity. One below and one above the screen but I’ve got better things to blow money on right now.
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The use of M3 as center matches quite well with my mains. Yeah M50s are close alright.
I'm using a single M3 vertical and inverted on top of our 65" Mits, but sometimes it gets rather easy to localize up there. I could snuggle a W3 below the screen inside an indentation of the TVs bodywork where the top edge of the speaker would be on the same plane as the lower edge of the screen and it may work well as long as the M3 and W3 play well together. The W3 would be placed horizontally and hopefully the M3 on top as well.
Orientation of the tweeters would of course be trial and error in a horribly reflective and hideously sucky listening room.
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When I first setup my theatre, I had M22 mains, and M3's above and below the screen.
I have since switched out the M3s for M2s, and I must say, I love the brutal honest nature of the M2. I love the M3s too, but really only for stand alone stuff with no sub. If I have a sub, the M2s are my pick. They are an amazing little speaker.
Mdrew, I know that you are used to your M22s, but I would really suggest trying out some M2s vertically mounted above and below the screen. In your room, you will probably not even notice a difference from the M22 centres (especially if you do not notice a difference with the M3s vs the M22s). And to boot, the M2s have a much smaller footprint than the M3s, and actually don't look that bad when mounted above and below, i'll try and take some more pics and update my website.
I have about the same size room as you (14x16 here).
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Re: Axiom Center Speaker with 6.5 woofer??
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I have a couple of Axiom made 6.5" center channel speakers. This is a picture of a modified Merak MC634 which was made by Axiom. This MC634 is interesting in that I swapped out the original 6.5" carbon fiber type drivers and replaced them with aluminum Axiom 6.5s from the M3/M40/M50/M60/M80 etc. Although I thought the original Axiom 3/4" titanium tweeter was excellent (previously used in the Mzeros and M2Tis as well as Meraks) I persuaded the cabinet to accept a tweeter from a Reference 3a de capo mm speaker. Like the M3s, these center channel speakers allow the 6.5's to run free. I modified the cross-over for the tweeter to about 2200Hz. I love this speaker. I also operated on an Axiom made MC6H center speaker. This center channel illegitimate step cousin to an Axiom one is based on the Merak MC6H which used a horn tweeter and a pair of carbon fiber like 6.5s. So, I swapped out the Merak 6.5s with a pair of Axioms, modified the cross-over and, although I do not mean to sound immodest, I love this speaker also. The Merak cabinet uses an anti-standing wave shape and is well made. I've compared these to the VP100 (have not had the chance to compare them to the VP150) and IMO, the modified Axiom made 6.5s sound better for dialogue, music, and blowing things up than their smaller though legitimate step cousins.
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Hey, I recognize that restless legs commercial in the first picture. It ran a lot last year.
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Oh, man, is that what that was? RLS rules. It's almost as cool as chronic breathing.
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Restless Leg Syndrome? That's nice Pmbko.
Anyway, as to the topic issue of an Axiom center channel with 6.5" drivers, I'm using 2 of them, have actual experience with them, and think they're terrific.
Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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I (really and truly) don't doubt it, Herr Center Frankenchannel. And despite (or because of) our history, please take that as a compliment.
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