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Now that I relook at those pictures I agree also. Your soundstage will open up if you spread out the mains more.
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When I first set up my front mains I had them placed just in front of the pictures and it sounded as if the center channel was where all the sound was coming from. It seemed as if there was a gap in the sound between the center and front mains. I read a post somewhere on this forum where Alan Lofft said the front mains should be spaced no more than half the distance from where you are sitting in relation to the front mains. I am about 7 feet from my front mains and my speakers are spaced about 4 feet apart. I use to have my center channel on top of my tv though, so maybe it will sound different with it positioned as it is now. I will try to spacing them out a bit and see how it sounds. Thanks guys for the input.
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I too agree, try them out at the extremes then move them back in a few inches at a time until you are happy with the soudstage, I bet they will be out a little more than they are now.
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When listening to music, the voice should appear as if it is coming from the center channel, that is the best imaging. The other instruments will be in other locations.
It is my understanding that you want them about the same distance apart as you are from them. A slight toe in towards the center seat may help as well.
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Shal,
The stereo sound localization very much depends on the CD that you're playing. When I listen to Diana Krall: Love Scenes for example, she is dead centre between my 80s and her bassist is a touch to the left. But when I play Echoes of Incas: Ventana Al Sol, there are sound cues at the centre, to the left and right of centre, at the left and right speaker and even cues well beyond the speaker boundaries including behind me to the left and right sides.
Start with an equilateral triangle and keep moving your fronts closer together from there. And leave them where it sounds best to you.
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That seems to make more sense. Maybe it misread the post. I wasn't too pleased with how close they were anyway. I will start with the equilateral triangle as suggested and slowly move them in. Thanks guys
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Mojo's point is very important. Make sure you try for 4-5 CDs that you really like to find the best "return" for your "positional money".
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Your room looks great Todd, nice job. Equidistant isn't a set in stone rule regarding placement. Play with the speakers in several different width locations and see what you think, this can take up quite a lot of time so be patient. Find the placement that makes these speakers shine, so that whenever do find the sweet spot you can then go back and tweak 'em a little more after a couple of months 'cause you'll find that sooner or later you just can't seem to leave the things alone for any length of time without *another fine adjustment* ... happens to almost everybody. 
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What Rick is saying is very true. I spent tens of hours positioning my fronts and I thought I found the perfect orientation with the massive toe-in that you see on the Wall of Fame. But after 7 months, I moved my 80s for a Paradigm A/B test and when I put them back, I didn't have them toed in at all. I found the soundstage opened up tremendously and the treble was "sweeter". What fooled me with the extreme toe-in was the clearness of the highs. The treble clarity that I thought was good was even more appealing with no toe-in.
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When I first set up my front mains I had them placed just in front of the pictures and it sounded as if the center channel was where all the sound was coming from. It seemed as if there was a gap in the sound between the center and front mains. I read a post somewhere on this forum where Alan Lofft said the front mains should be spaced no more than half the distance from where you are sitting in relation to the front mains. I am about 7 feet from my front mains and my speakers are spaced about 4 feet apart. I use to have my center channel on top of my tv though, so maybe it will sound different with it positioned as it is now. I will try to spacing them out a bit and see how it sounds. Thanks guys for the input. Have you calibrated your speakers?
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