Re: EP400s : The Little Subwoofer That Could
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Thanks for the tip on the scene.
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Re: EP400s : The Little Subwoofer That Could
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I keep going back to the initial pic you posted of the 600 and 400 colocated. Considering the advantages as well as limitations of each, ie limited spl but tight response of the 400 vs greater spl but somewhat less responsiveness of the 600. Have you listened to them together stacked to see how well they play together?
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I've listened to the 400 pair colocated which gives you more headroom and the same acoustics. I have not colocated the 600/400 though its worth a try .
John
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If it does provide more of a "total package" by colocation, then it might be interesting if you could borrow your brother's 600 and test a pair of these "EP 1000's"!
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Jakeman,
I am not sure if you answered this directly, but would you rather have a single EP600, or dual EP400's on opposite walls, in your room? They cost roughly the same, give or take a couple bills.
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Well I have colocated 600s, 500s and 500/600s and the extra headroom meant more effortless sound with no change to the sonic signature. Adding a 400 would be different. I'm a big believer in lots of headroom to keep any noise or artifacts to a minimum. The 600, like the DD-18, excelled in this regard and it could easily be argued that it put in the best overall performance of all the subs given the difficult bass tracks we played.
I can try the 600/400 combo in a couple of days. Adding my brothers 600 will provide more headroom but I gather its the sonic signature thats you are interested in.
John
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Jakeman,
I am not sure if you answered this directly, but would you rather have a single EP600, or dual EP400's on opposite walls, in your room? They cost roughly the same, give or take a couple bills. Its different strokes for different folks Hutz. Both subs sound differently and much depends on your room size, WAF and if you are mainly into music or HT. That's why there are different type of subs in the product line.
John
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As price does play a role in all purchase decisions, 2 EP400's are roughly the same as a single EP600. With the 2 subs, you get the advantage of getting a more uniform bass response in all the seats in the theatre...but less chest pounding bass, a single EP600 will give you that headroom, and chest pounding bass...
But how much more exactly does the EP600 give you? Enough to not get TWO E400s?
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Robb,
In my 4,000 cubic foot space, I would never replace a single 600 with dual 400s. There are many reasons but the most predominant one is that two 400s cannot reproduce the couch-shaking bass that I demand for movies and the enveloping, transparent bass that I crave for music. Four 400s might give me what I want but just barely.
Now having said that, the 400 "teased" me with its initial tightness or put another way, its ability to reproduce "snap". If the 600 could expand upon that tightness without losing its enveloping, transparent nature, I believe this would be the best sub on the market at perhaps any price. What I struggle with is whether the next version of the 600 should have a 12dB/octave or 6dB/octave roll-off or perhaps a way to vary the slope or at least select between a number of slopes. It's this slope that greatly contributes to the tightness without making the sub sound bloated.
The 400 is a tremendous sub for smaller spaces though.
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