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Well, I'm not necessarily objecting in this situation. It's just I hate the specious argument of "Well, you didn't hear it personally, so you can't believe anything anyone says--but only if you disagree with my position."

Also, let me make it clear that I really enjoy my SACDs--for whatever reason; better mastering, 5.1 surround, etc.

I see your point. My response wasn't necessarily just to you, but to the thread in general. However, the thread was really about movie audio formats, and while I feel pretty safe saying that the new lossless formats beat the pants off their old lossy predecessors, I'm really not sure of how much difference can be heard between uncompressed, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS: HD Master Audio.

the real benefit of higher sampling rates is enjoyed by audio editors. A higher sampling rate affords for more accurate sample edits, say when trying to dial in on the perfect part of a drum beat, you can edit in more detail on the amplitude of the audio wave.

And I have a problem with people who will believe nothing but test results that are done by others, but only if they are in alignment with their personal beliefs or agendas and then stating them as absolutes.

If I, or anyone were to believe these “tests” that John speaks of, then why is there DVD-A, SACD, BR and HD-DVD in the first place? Oh wait, I suppose the “believers” will just coin that up to marketing…..never mind, no need to answer, I’ve heard it before from the trend and graph and one-watt is enough club members.

…….I’ll continue to enjoy high resolution audio even though the numbers confirm that I haven’t got a clue. I’ll also continue to enjoy 1080P/24 even though the numbers confirm I haven’t got a clue.

Mike, did you actually read that link that John sent? It seems pretty clear. There are a lot of other benefits to SACD/DVD-A (I'm not getting into the Blu-Ray HDDVD thing here) than just higher resolution/bitrate audio. Plus, they were talking about ideal conditions, if I read that right, which makes John somewhat incorrect; or at least makes his statement misleading.



Glad you enjoy it. I do too.

The objectivity of science in not an agenda, but an absolute requirement if your goal is anything resembling fact.

I agree with all of the above.
My dvd-a sound better than their cd counterparts, but whether this is due to a higher bitrate sampling or a different mastering to produce the dvd-a, is unquestionable (blind a/b tests at home make it unquestionable to me at least).
However, the limitation of cd also comes in the stereo form. Take that cd quality and spread it equally to every other channel in the audio system and you have one wicked surround experience.
No, Dolby Pro Logic for music does not even come close and sounds nothing like a dedicated dvd-a format across surround channels.
Anyone who has A/B'd that particular test (which i have, at home) would know the blue truck from the pink boat any given day of the year.

I like that analogy.

I just read this while eating lunch.
It seemed like an easy to read explanation of a few of the things being discussed.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/news/show...less_Audio/1233

Thanks for the link. Good stuff.