Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845
aficionado
|
OP
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845 |
Well, time does fly........and I'm coming up on the 4 year anniversary of the purchase of my M60's I am still amazed at how great they sound...(I'm not going to add "for the money", as many do) I really made a good call in picking the M60's...they have been perfect for my needs. They still look like new, as well....even after a move from Florida, to Illinois (in their original inner boxes). I have been listening to an even greater variety of music types, and styles than ever before............and as always, the M60's shine! This may not be the longest review on the M60ti.....but I wanted to "check in" and let anyone contemplating buying Axiom Speakers (especially the M60'S, Axioms best) that they are a great investment..and they.............last!
Larry
LIFE: "Choices, balance, and timing"
(Larryism)
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 |
Larry, good to hear from you, and great that your still enjoying your 60's. As you know I owned 60's for a couple of years and loved every minuted of them. In fact, when I joined this forum, the 60's were pushed more by forum members than the 80's, with very favorable comments. If I still had my 60's I would be completely satisfied as they are killer speakers. For some reason now we are over populated with 80's owners, including myself. At times it appears 60's seem to be getting a little minor bashing lately by the 80's club. Just to let any newcomers know the 60's are excellent high end speakers that diserve their high thrown position at Axiom.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420 |
I actually prefer the look of the M60 with the extra cabinet exposed under the grill. The M80 with the grill going right to the floor looks wrong, for the lack of a better word. It was this look and the reports of the 60s sounding the same as the 80s that made me purchase the 60s to begin with. Even though I ended up with the 80s, I still wish they had the same look as the 60s. I used one of the 60s as a center in an experiment and it sounded awesome, way better than anything I have heard before or since as a center. Hmmmm.......remove the fireplace and install a M60 for a center........I would be a dead man.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044 |
I agree about the look of the 60s vs the 80s. Until you take the grill off. Not much beats that solid line of drivers...
I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420 |
That line of drivers is nice, but like you I have kids in the area and the grilles are a must to avert errant balls and blocks etc.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044 |
I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 |
Oh great, all this time and I never noticed the grill going lower on the 80's, and I'm kinda picky, thanks guys.. I suppose they could make the m80's taller to get the same look, but then we would complain about that.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 16,441
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 16,441 |
Picky? I don't think that's the right word.
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654 |
Good to hear, Larry. Your M60s should be good not just for four years, but for a lifetime of enjoying beautiful music.
-----------------------------------
Enjoy the music, not the equipment.
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,955
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,955 |
I can't say enough about the incredible sound my 60s deliver. I have never hear 80's but I can't imagine what I'm missing. Hmmmm, I will need another set for my TV room, turning pool table room, as the M60s in there will soon move into the new HT room. I'm also thinking second sub from all this chatter lately about duel subs. Can't afford either right now so I must stop thinking altogether. Damn this forum! I bet everyone of you guys is really one single Axiom paid Psychologist who pretends to be all the regulars on the board in order to plant irresistible, purchase inclinations into susceptible minds like mine....... One even pretends to be a psychologist as part of the reverse jedi-mind trick. Conspiracy, I tell you!!!!!!
With great power comes Awesome irresponsibility.
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833 |
One of these days I sure would like to hear a set of M60s (hint hint)
Rick
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 47
buff
|
buff
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 47 |
As someone I recently purchased an Epic 60/500 set, I have to agree with that the 60s are mindblowingly beautiful. I went with them because my room is not large, I didn't want to deal with the lower impedance and the assurance from Alan that blind testing had revealed that the tonal differences between the 60s and the 80s were not extreme but were in fact almost subtle.
There was a lot of talk in the forum about the 60s being "laid back" but Alan assured me this was not the case. I now know that they absolutely rock. As I have said before, Whatever reality is in a recording, these guys will reveal it.
Anyway, 4 years of M60 ownership is time very well spent from an audio perspective IMHO.
Congratulations!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,488
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 8,488 |
bibere usque ad hilaritatem
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 |
I'm still an honorary member even though I retired mine a few years back, still attend board meetings.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845
aficionado
|
OP
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845 |
Rick, I hope so.........finally, Jakewash, Now that you mention it, they DO look better than the M80's. Larry
LIFE: "Choices, balance, and timing"
(Larryism)
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786 |
And I'm just a wannabe member until I scrape together enough pennies, but I did get to hear the entire line in A/B auditioning.
I didn't find the 60s laid back. With some instruments like piano, I didn't really hear any difference between the 60s and 80s.
With other instruments I heard a difference. How subtle or noticable it is seems to be a very personal thing.
Fred
------- Blujays1: Spending Fred's money one bottle at a time, no two... Oh crap!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,490 Likes: 116
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 10,490 Likes: 116 |
I distinctly remember that Diana Krall's piano did not sound as crisp, open and transparent with the 60s. Maybe this has to do with off-axis performance of the 80s in my room. Maybe the off-axis performance of the 80s is better than the 60s but to hear that difference you have to be in a relatively bright room like mine. If you listened to the line-up in an acoustically dead room, then the off-axis performance of the 80s never got realized.
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 |
I really don't understand why all the talk lately about this Axiom model against this other Axiom model, this forum sure has changed over the last year it seems. If all the Axiom speakers, or any brand for that matter, sounded the same from the low end bookshelf upto the top of the line floorstanding speaker, there would not be the range of customers with different needs.
This hobby is much more fun if you just sit back and enjoy the sounds.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 18,044 |
There's always been that sort of talk, though. It just used to be between M50s and M60s.
I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 |
yep, I remember those days.
M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
frequent flier
|
frequent flier
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 18 |
question: how will the m80s sound in comparison to the m60s, for stereo music in a small room setup? (like an apartment)
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,301
connoisseur
|
connoisseur
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,301 |
Loud, the m60's are great speakers and Imo would be perfect in a smaller space for anyone looking for floorstanders.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,420 |
I noticed that the M80s played with more detail at lower volume levels than the M60, once you start to increase the volume, say near reference levels, the differences went away. I have my M80s in a 12X16 'L' shaped room where the other part of the 'L' is also 12X16.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786 |
Hmm. Well, I opted for the 80s over the 60s for an apartment livingroom that is 20x11x8 and I wasn't even considering them before I did an a/b comparison.
No doubt they will go much louder than I will ever need, but they also present more detail in the mids and highs, and more bass extension.
I really noticed the extra detail with cymbals and the kick-drum, and to a lesser degree with other instruments.
I think that it depends on what music you are going to listen to and how well recorded it is. In my case, I was auditioning with Dire Straits, Peter Gabriel and ELP, all well recorded albums.
I will be listening to a mix of (well recorded) rock, jazz and classical so I will benefit from the step up to the M80.
If you look at a post by sovkiller you will see that not so great recordings sound not so great on the M80 because of the detail they present.
Hope this helps.
Fred
------- Blujays1: Spending Fred's money one bottle at a time, no two... Oh crap!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
frequent flier
|
frequent flier
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 18 |
Instead of getting the m80s I got the m60s and so far I am pretty happy with them right now. I guess I don't know what I am missing since I have not heard the m80s yet... What if I take that extra $300 dollars or so and invest in a better AMP, let's say a Yamaha RXV1700 and bi-amp the m60s? (I have a crappy sony 70watts right now...) any advice on that?
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654
shareholder in the making
|
shareholder in the making
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10,654 |
Met, if your "crappy" Sony is nevertheless in good working condition and still capable of putting out a clean 70 watts(and if it isn't, there's a violation of the FTC power regulations that all amplifiers sold in the U.S. have to comply with), then spending money on an amplifier with a slightly greater maximum power capacity isn't going to be of benefit unless you're actually using more than the 70 or so watts that your present amp can deliver cleanly(unlikely). A new receiver such as the 1700 will have more up-to-date features, and that could be a reason for considering a replacement, but more maximum power capacity(especially supposedly coming from the fictitious "bi-amp" feature that some receivers advertise)isn't likely to be one. The extra $300 would far more likely be more cost-effective if it was applied toward speakers.
-----------------------------------
Enjoy the music, not the equipment.
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 7,786 |
If you are happy with the M60, don't worry, be happy, listen to more music.
Fred
------- Blujays1: Spending Fred's money one bottle at a time, no two... Oh crap!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,898
connoisseur
|
connoisseur
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,898 |
I've heard the 60s and the 80s, but not in an A/B comparison. I heard the 60s in my audition and was floored with their quality. They are what convinced me to go with Axiom in the first place, so I really believe that you'd be quite happy with them. In my case, the extra money to upgrade to Axiom's best (80s) was worth it as I didn't want to play the "what if" game in the future. They're both great speakers.
Epic 80-800: HG Cherry
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,877
connoisseur
|
connoisseur
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,877 |
I planned on getting the m60's (partly so I could get by with a cheaper amp) but I could not find any to audition. I auditioned some m80's and instantly doubled my amp budget and added a few hundred dollars to my speaker budget
-David
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,102
connoisseur
|
connoisseur
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,102 |
You guys are ALL missing it...ya'll need to buy some M22s!
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845
aficionado
|
OP
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845 |
metronet,
Wise choice!.......Congrats.
You will be amazed, AND...from what I understand, you would have needed much more than the $300 Dollars, to buy one of the "handfull" of Amps that will sufficiently power the M80's. Enjoy!
LIFE: "Choices, balance, and timing"
(Larryism)
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833 |
I'm still waiting to hear some M60s
Rick
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845
aficionado
|
OP
aficionado
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 845 |
Rick, You will. In fact, when we get together again, we can call it 'Midwest Fest 2008'......and show those "West Coast Guys". Larry
Last edited by LT61; 05/02/08 06:26 PM.
LIFE: "Choices, balance, and timing"
(Larryism)
|
|
|
Re: Axiom M60ti's....4 year review.
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833
axiomite
|
axiomite
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,833 |
You call the date, I'll be there
Rick
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud
|
|
|
Forums16
Topics24,945
Posts442,489
Members15,617
|
Most Online2,082 Jan 22nd, 2020
|
|
0 members (),
714
guests, and
4
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|