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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
MarkSJohnson #202304 03/28/08 05:12 PM
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Make sure you try some source material other than compressed stuff from the ipod...


This is a great idea, I just don't have alot of options at this time because everything is torn apart. I did hook up a CD player and played some regulat CDs and they sounded even better. I would like to try some of my Blu-rays with a uncompressed soundtrack, but I think I will make decesion before I am ready to do that.


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
DougTheDog #202307 03/28/08 05:23 PM
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Ok...I am sure by now you people think I am crazy. This situation is fluid and seems to changing as the day passes. My brother came over the hear the M60s. He liked them alot, better than his Paradigm towers he has and has loved for years.

Thing is he has been looking for a new receiver. He says he would be interested in taking the Onkyo 805 off my hands for what I paid. So, now I am back to where I was before I thought I could not unload the Onkyo.

Keep the Onkyo and the M60s

or

Sell the Onkyo, upgrade to the M80s and call 6ave.com to try and pick up the Denon 3808 for a decent price.

Thanks for listen guys, at this point I think I have just become a rambling fool...coo coo for speakers...


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
DougTheDog #202308 03/28/08 05:24 PM
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As an avid iPod (compressed music) listener who hadn't bought a CD for about 3 years before getting my Axioms, I can tell you I was amazed at the difference between the compressed music and the CD versions... I have a dock to pipe the iPod into my sound system and also use "AirTunes" to play music remotely over the system. These were my main source of audio for the last ~2 years.

I realize this is obvious to so many here, but after this long hearing nothing but compressed music, dropping the CD into the player and hearing the original source music was exactly like "lifting the veil" Mojo talked about.* \:D Now just wait until you run a BluRay audio track through the Axioms. \:o

* (I'll take the -500 point demotion too) ;\)


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
DougTheDog #202309 03/28/08 05:46 PM
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The fact that you have the M60s and are already finding a way to get the M80s instead should answer your question. Now you have a way to do it that refutes the only reason you could think of not to...the Onkyo...so jump at it.

The same logic that had you hold on to the M60s applies with the M80s. Now that you've heard the M60s, if you get the M80s and for some strange reason you hate them (you won't) you could always return them and get the M60s back.

6ave was great to me for the Denon 3808. 1098 shipped and it came in 3 days!


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
Megnaro #202310 03/28/08 05:48 PM
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Him being willing to take the Onkyo off your hands is a sign from the audio gods. Smite them not.

80's and 3808CI. Then you won't have any reason to look back.


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
tomtuttle #202314 03/28/08 05:56 PM
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I agree the 3080CI and the 80's, it's pretty obvious that you won't be completely satisfied until you have the best of both. \:\)


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
HomeDad #202317 03/28/08 06:14 PM
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The ultimate solution... Make him a package deal on the M60's & Onkyo together, and tell him he can't have them until all of your new stuff comes in. \:\)

Seriously though, it's no contest. Finding a way around the Onkyo problem is indeed a sign from above... you'll never look back if you take the opportunity. On the other hand, imagine how many times you'll wonder "what if" if you don't do the upgrade...


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
DougTheDog #202320 03/28/08 06:35 PM
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You guys are all pretty much right I think. I would not want to smite the audio gods. I am really leaning towards going with the Denon and the M80s. I like the M60s alot, but it seems agreed upon that I will hear a big difference jumping to the Denon and the M80s.

Here is the last question I am asking myself. Will the performance upgrade be a $700 dollar value upgrade? That is around what it will be costing me and this is really the last sticking point on this wild ride. I think I am going to listen to some more tunes and think on it over the weekend.

myrison - You idea of the package deal with the Onkyo did not slip my mind. I did actually try to sell that and he is seriously thinking of buying some, but after hearing the M60s, I think he too is asking himself how good must the M80s sound.


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
DougTheDog #202324 03/28/08 06:56 PM
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Which puts a new complexion on things. If he is seriously considering M80s himself, do you screw him over with the Onkyo? \:D Myself, I would in a heartbeat [scumbag tortured me for years (mine not yours)]). Most likely though, he'll just be wishy washy so strike while the iron is hot.

As for veils, they can be pretty diaphanous, so lifting one may actually be a pretty minor adjustment. Like pulling earplugs might be a more dramatic statement (not from me as I have not heard the 60s).


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Re: What would your advice be....upgrade or not?
doormat #202330 03/28/08 09:11 PM
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Alright, I've been lurking here for months just dreaming of the day when I can order a full Axiom M80/500/QS8 system. I've never posted. But OmahaBlu, even I know what to do, sell the Onkyo, and get the M80s, quickly.

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