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#204754 - 04/19/08 01:19 PM Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s
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Was wondering if I could get some advice as to whether I will notice the difference in upgrading from M3s to M22s up front. Currently have the 4 x M3s [front and surround] and the VP100 with an SVS sub.

Thanks in advance for the comments...

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#204755 - 04/19/08 01:25 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: Laserjock]
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#204757 - 04/19/08 01:29 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: terzaghi]
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Jeeez...my searching skills apparently need seriously honing...

Thanks for the link....

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#204758 - 04/19/08 01:30 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: terzaghi]
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Welcom Laser,

I can't comment on the M3's or M22's from personal experience, as I've never owned those models. I know people generally say the m3's give you better base performance, and the m22' generally give you a bit better detail. With your sub helping, you may enjoy the 22's as they would give you that better clarity. I'm sure the m3's are great speakers also...
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#204759 - 04/19/08 01:36 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: SirQuack]
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I love my M3s...but I do find them sometimes lacking a bit of detail on music...almost like the soundstage is a bit "blurry". However, I have not auditioned any other quality speakers in my home...I bought the Axioms based on online recommendations and have never doubted my decision.

Have a birthday coming up and the wife hates that I don't have anything I really want...so thought maybe upgrading my fronts might be something.

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#204761 - 04/19/08 01:48 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: Laserjock]
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Hi laserjock,

You'll flip out at the detail and soundstage you'll get from the M22s if you've been used to the M3s. But keep in mind that the M22s are quite analytical in terms of recording quality.

Really great recordings will sound wonderful, but others that have been EQ'd or have other anomalies will be unpleasant or, rather, you'll be aware of any inherent distortion in the source material. The M22s are not kind to bad recordings. They're a window to the source.

I presume you have a subwoofer, because the M22s can use the extra bass extension.

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#204762 - 04/19/08 01:49 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: Laserjock]
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Jock,

I agree with your comments on the M3s. To me, they sound like M22s with a blanket on top. But then the M22s sound too "thin" to me and in my room at least, my 600 doesn't make them sound any thicker. I guess M80s are the way to go \:\) .

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#204766 - 04/19/08 02:10 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: Mojo]
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Laser, as Alan said, if it is more detail you want the M22s are for you. I have found placing them close to a wall aids in making them not sound thin, that and a boost of 2-3 db in the bass settings on the receiver. Anyone that has heard my M22s have found them to be quite full and not thin, at least in my house, at mojo's it was as he claims, they were ineed thin.

Mojo next time I come down I am bringing the M22s and we are going to try some new placements to see if I am right.
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#204769 - 04/19/08 02:34 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: jakewash]
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Good point about placing them closer to the wall. At my place, the backs of the 22s were about a foot-and-a-half, maybe more, away from the wall.

Jason, what's the ETA on the sub? Next week is a great week for me. The wires are all ready for your 22s \:\) .

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#204771 - 04/19/08 03:02 PM Re: Have M3s up front...considering upgrading to M22s [Re: Mojo]
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Alan...point taken about the analytical nature of the M22s. I will keep that in mind in my consideration of making this move. I do have an SVS subwoofer in my system. How do you feel they fare as part of an HT system? Again, I have M3s for surrrounds and the VP100 as my center.

Jason - My placement would have the M22s probably a couple of feet away from the wall...but maybe tweaking and the sub would keep that from being a problem?

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