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the XPA-2 looks very nice though. 500 wpc into 4 ohms for my m80's

You can get 450 watts/channel into 2 channels at 4 ohms with the XPA-5...seems like the better choice to me. Cuz you'll have 3 other channels if you want them

When the XPA-7 comes out I will most likely get one just to check it out. 5 channels doesn't do it for me, I need 6. I know I could still use the Denon but if the seperates are that much better, then why would I still want to use the Denon for any channel?

Hutzal, to get the 450 wpc do you have to have only 2 speakers hooked up to the amp? I think once you hook up more speakers than the wpc is reduced.

Terz,

I don't think so. I think if no signals are coming out of the amp to the other channels (even if they are hooked up) then the WPC gets distributed between the 2 channels that are operating.

Jason,

I have been browsing the Emotiva forum, they are not planning on releasing a 7 channel amp (XPA-7). They are going to stick with the UPA-1 (previously known as the LPA-1) and modify it for 7 equal channels of 125 wpc into 8ohms, and 225 wpc into 4ohms, the new price for this unit will be $649 or less (I guess they haven't decided yet).

This is also an option for me.

I can't speak for the 3808 but I can for their 1906. Mine runs a pair of 8 Ohm M3's and will say Denon's performance is solid. If Denon's higher end works just as well, it's a good choice. Not sure if you've made your decision, but I'll also throw is HK's 645 (my brother owns one). Decent amp tech...that never tires. He also runs M3's.

I think I could actually try out the XPA-5 or the LPA-1 I don't remember which, but one of them is actually 6 channels all equal, the 6th is split to get 7 which is why it is lower. I just needed to read a little further down the page. Hmmm send the PB13 back and keep the PB12 then get the Emotiva....I am a dead man when I mention this to my wife.

Is anybody familiar with the Sony STR-DA5300ES receiver? Axiom told me it won't power the M80s, but that's no worry as I'm looking at the M60s. However I still want to make sure I get the best receiver available for the price. Both the Sony and the Denon are priced similarly and have similar features. However, some of the on-line reviews I read gave the edge to the Sony. But, if the Denon 3808 has a slightly more robust amplifier, should that be a major consideration? I would really appreciate your opinions before I buy.

Thanks in advance.

I'm curious what reviews are giving the edge to the Sony. There are several happy owners of the 3808 on the board. What features does the Sony have over it?

When it comes to AVR's I would pick Denon over sony any day.