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Re: similar topic (m22 as center)
Ken.C #209453 05/27/08 04:06 PM
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Would 2-3 feet separation between the center and mains be enough? That is the most separation I can achieve.

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Ya_basta #209458 05/27/08 04:53 PM
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Probably so. I'm just reacting to stuff like the monster center that Jakeman has in his pics, where he has 2 M22s flanking the TV, with a VP150 above it, and then the M60s about a foot away on either side. I know he doesn't really run like that, but still...


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Re: similar topic (m22 as center)
Ken.C #209491 05/27/08 06:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Oh, I wasn't clear. I meant a single horizontal M22 didn't fly well.

Me, I'm generally against the mondo center channel trend. More speakers, more widely separated in the center, and you're just going to be muddying the stereo image. Use 2? Great, keep 'em pretty close together and away from your mains.


You’re exactly right Ken. Too close and you might as well have one. Too far apart and you might as well run a phantom center because they screw with the entire sound stage. I messed with my twin 22’s for days till I finally got the distance between them “just right”. In my room, which is 12’ wide, they sound best right about 28” apart - center to center. I’m considering buying two VP150’s now and mounting one over the screen and the other over the screen. The main reason being that due to the screen size, the 22’s are about six inches lower than the mains and sometime vocals just don’t seam to come from the screen, but from below it.

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pmbuko #209492 05/27/08 06:38 PM
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fredk #209501 05/27/08 07:05 PM
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
... welcome to the forums. This is a fine group of people to hang out with.

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medic8r #209503 05/27/08 07:07 PM
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Ken.C #209515 05/27/08 07:34 PM
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Or maybe I meant Tom.

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Re: similar topic (m22 as center)
michael_d #209555 05/27/08 09:52 PM
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 Originally Posted By: mdrew
 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Oh, I wasn't clear. I meant a single horizontal M22 didn't fly well.

Me, I'm generally against the mondo center channel trend. More speakers, more widely separated in the center, and you're just going to be muddying the stereo image. Use 2? Great, keep 'em pretty close together and away from your mains.


You’re exactly right Ken. Too close and you might as well have one. Too far apart and you might as well run a phantom center because they screw with the entire sound stage. I messed with my twin 22’s for days till I finally got the distance between them “just right”. In my room, which is 12’ wide, they sound best right about 28” apart - center to center. I’m considering buying two VP150’s now and mounting one over the screen and the other over the screen. The main reason being that due to the screen size, the 22’s are about six inches lower than the mains and sometime vocals just don’t seam to come from the screen, but from below it.


Mdrew did I need your post correctly that you spread your two M22's 28 inches apart? I called Axiom and told the gentleman that I was planning on positioning them horizontally side-by-side but no recommendation was given as far as spacing them out. It's not recommended to position them horizontally directly side-by-side? Here's a picture of my room for reference. Apparently I need to post some updated ones

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Re: similar topic (m22 as center)
Ya_basta #209557 05/27/08 09:54 PM
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Mike's are vertical, though. When Jakeman Jakewash (duh...) did it horizontally, afaik, they were right next to one another.

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