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Oh no!!!
#21435 10/04/03 11:14 PM
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Well, I just sent axiom an email describing the following problem.

Hi,

I received my m60 towers earlier this week and I can't say enough about how much I love these speakers. However, I noticed something disturbing a few minutes ago. I was playing the St. Anger album by Metallica and on some of the songs when the guitar is really heavy and just coming out of 1 speaker I heard a rattle. I thought maybe the axioms are so clear that maybe it was in the recording and I just had never noticed it before.

Unfortunately that is not the case, because I switched the left and right speakers and then the rattle was no longer there in the one speaker that the guitar is coming out of. When I crouch down next to the speaker that is making the rattle noise, it is hard to pinpoint where it is coming from because the volume has to be turned up pretty loud and I don't want to put my ear next to the tweeter when it's turned up. I sounds to me like the rattle is coming from the midrange just below the tweeter, but I'm not positive.

It is really noticable on a lot of parts on the album, and I'm sure I'll find other discs that do the same.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Hopefully they will get back to me soon. What do you guys think it could be?


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#21436 10/04/03 11:24 PM
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Some people have had this problem before. Its the driver has had the magnet come unglued ( the sheliding magnet ) ( im pretty sure ) dont fear, axiom will simply send you a free replacement and you gotta just change the old one out and viola. perfectly working speaker again.

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#21437 10/05/03 06:18 AM
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I could bash Metallica and say the Axioms are just complaining at having to reproduce that particular album...

but I'd be a hypocrite since I like them, too. (I'd have to like them to have paid $75 to have seen them on their last tour!)

What the guy up there ^ ^ ^ said is right. Axiom will send you a free replacement if a loose magnet is indeed the problem.

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#21438 10/05/03 08:22 AM
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I had a similar problem when I received my M80s. In my case the allen screw on the driver that was rattling needed to be tightened. That fixed it..

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#21439 10/05/03 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I tried tightening in the screws and that did the trick. However, I am wondering how tight I should go. All of the screws can be screwed tighter by quite a bit; do I keep screwin' til I can't screw no more, (pun intended) or is it possible to be to tight (I won't touch that one).

Thank god that it was a very easy solution!

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#21440 10/05/03 10:43 PM
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pmbuko,

so you shelled out the cash this summer too, huh. I have to say that I think I'm one of the few people who actually LOVES the new album. It took a little while to get used to the snair drum, but once I just kind of accepted the tribal beat sound (some refer to it as hitting a trash can sound) I really started to love it. Now, it's one of those albums that I just can't get sick of no matter how much I listen to it.

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I'm starting to really like it. I think the latter half of the album is better, and I'd like to see James not singing off key, but overall, it is a pretty enjoyable album. Except the mastering sucks.


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#21442 10/06/03 12:33 AM
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You should only screw them down till they are fairly tight. If you keep going, you will just start chewing up the MDF and then you would need to drill all new screw holes. which would not be good. Thats what happened with my old JBL speakers. when i got them there were already a few screws that didnt have anything to grab because the stuff had already been ruined. although the material they used wasnt as dense and hard as the stuff axiom uses. Well, to make a long story short, i ended up just redrilling holes and mounting the drivers differently so that all the screws held on.

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#21443 10/06/03 04:13 AM
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cameron,

I would definitely call the Axiom tech support and consult Joe before you inadvertently over-tighten the screws and damage the threads in the MDF.

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#21444 10/06/03 07:27 PM
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Cameron,

Just tighten them "fairly snug" --like, don't lean on the Allen wrench! And tighten them all evenly, to the same degree. There's always that self-destructive urge (I know it well) to really tighten the suckers, and then you'll be sorry.

I've stripped threads in the past on outboard motors (spark plugs) and other stuff until I learned not to overdo it. If you get really obsessive--I'm kidding here--you could get a torque wrench that actually measures the degree of tightening in foot-pounds. I used to use one to do work on VW bugs for years. You had to tighten each bolt on the clutch plate to exactly the same degree. Torque wrenches are great devices and are commonly used in engine work on cars, planes, etc.


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#21445 10/06/03 07:49 PM
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Although not as "numerically precise" as a real torque wrench, general-purpose hand-held power drills (which you can use as a powered screw driver, of course) usually have a torque-sensitive limited-slip clutch (don't know the correct term!), which will prevent you from over-tightening wood screws. I have a battery-powered DeWalt, which is very nifty as a screwdriver, too.

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#21446 10/06/03 08:05 PM
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That sounds dangerous to me. My power drill will usually chew up the screw head, strip the threads, or break the screw before it stalls.

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#21447 10/06/03 08:17 PM
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...or, perhaps, one slip and perforate the cone/dome! LOL

But it doesn't if you are careful enough and use it only at VERY low speed -- battery-powered ones are especially good at very low-speed operation.

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#21448 10/06/03 08:36 PM
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Sushi, i have a friend who did that once.

Whoops! Screwdriver through the ole midrange cone. Sh**! it was a paper cone though so he was able to repair it.

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Been there, done that. It's really, really irritating. Of course, both (all three?) times were with a regular screwdriver.


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Alan going off-topic?! What have we done?

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