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Re: Crossover Settings and.. To Audyssey or Not....
JonHan #228156 11/03/08 02:07 AM
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I found the opposite in the bass department with Audyssey. Maybe the multiple subs complicates matters. I finally turned Audyssey off a couple weeks ago and have noticed much better impact on action movies.

In general, the sound just feels more lively. I thought the somewhat flat aspect with Audyssey was just my ears not being adjusted to the "balanced" sound and left it on for months and months. It finally began gnawing at me that something wasn't right with it.

Still undecided on buying the update. Many other things to spend my money on with the holidays rapidly approaching. Besides, things seem okay now that it's turned off.

I guess everybody's situation is different with Audyssey. Maybe I just need to tweak it a bit more.


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Re: Crossover Settings and.. To Audyssey or Not....
myrison #228164 11/03/08 03:01 AM
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 Originally Posted By: myrison

So, while LFE is non-directional, pointing one way versus another might slightly affect the sound in the place where you sit based on where the resulting nulls/peaks are created

This was my experience when doing the sub-crawl in my room, however the effect wasn’t much as long as the driver’s position remained the same and only the orientation changed.


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St_PatGuy #228166 11/03/08 03:02 AM
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I'd forgotten about the impact the DSP has on the distance... thanks for the reminder. Does anyone know how much delay the BFD equalizer adds to the mix (i.e. how much further I should set my sub distance when using it)?

I'm guessing it also adds a slight delay, but can't remember having read if/how people have compensated for that in the past...

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Re: Crossover Settings and.. To Audyssey or Not....
myrison #228177 11/03/08 03:33 AM
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Jason, my view on that question is to use the sub distance that Audyssey measures(even if Audyssey EQ itself is later turned off)rather than attempting to set arbitrary numbers to compensate for the delays. Of course, simply adding a few feet is likely to be closer to reality than doing nothing.


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JohnK #228198 11/03/08 01:25 PM
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Thanks John. Sounds like you were right.

I also managed to find the "official" answer today from Home Theater Shack's Guide to using the BFD:

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NOTE: Something that you should remember to do when you are setting up your BFD is add a foot to the value you enter for sub distance in your pre/pro or receiver set up. The 1 msec DSP processing delay in the BFD would account for approximately a foot in distance.

I seriously doubt adding 1' to the distance makes an audible difference, but I'll probably do it anyway next time I run Audyssey. ;\)

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grunt #228277 11/04/08 12:48 AM
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Hey Grunt - I recognise that avatar. You have to be of a certain age \:\)

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Re: Crossover Settings and.. To Audyssey or Not....
Shane White #228279 11/04/08 01:13 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Shane White
Hey Grunt - I recognise that avatar. You have to be of a certain age \:\)

"All those negative waves"

Shane


You’re right Shane! But any age is still good for …drinking wine and eating cheese, and catching some rays, you know. ;\)

Cheers,
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grunt #228289 11/04/08 02:44 AM
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I didn't recognize Donald Sutherland without the white hair.

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pmbuko #228295 11/04/08 03:00 AM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
I didn't recognize Donald Sutherland without the white hair.

One of my favorite movies of all time and definitely my favorite war movie.


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grunt #228540 11/05/08 05:13 PM
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I have been playing around with auddessy lately with all the excellent advice on this forum about it. I have come to the conclusion I prefer the sound with auddessy turned off. However I have changed my front speakers to large and subwoofer settings to LFE+main.


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