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Re: Receiver problem
Zimm #248380 02/22/09 11:21 PM
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I don't think you can call Sony a solid company when it comes to receivers. A well known company, certainly. But wattage ratings are only required to be done for a single channel. When you see something like "100WPC, all channels driven" then it should be accurate.


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Re: Receiver problem
Ken.C #248384 02/22/09 11:53 PM
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Sounds like Alan pretty much summed up what the rest of us have been trying to tell Grant in the Alan section. ;\) Does looke like Russound offers a converter for his receiver to RCA for an amp, but it sounds like a new receiver would be the best option.


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SirQuack #248386 02/23/09 12:04 AM
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Looks like my guess of 50W/ch was too high. I think Sony makes a workable receiver for most applications, but for those that want more, like most of us, they just don't cut it. I know my old Sony actually works pretty good with the M80s in 2 channel but that is all it can do.


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Re: Receiver problem
jakewash #248390 02/23/09 12:30 AM
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I agree, I hate Sony AVRs. but frankly I was beginning to wonder if I should reconsider given all the talk of all amps being the same regardless of price, as long as the w/c were close. Not trying to be pain in the arse, as i am quickly approaching, but i am looking to upgrade my AVR and the search has gone hay wire with all the talk about a $3000 AVR is the exact same as a $700 AVR, except for whatever video section is there. It conflicts with my most basic understanding of economics, but, then again, I have Transparent Audio speaker cable, so I have been sucked in before. Just looking for the Rosetta Stone of Amp specs. Is it Watts/ch at a given current level, power when all channels are driven, THX certification, ad budget...after all these years of AV and HT I find myself shockingly lost in this search were value is the goal.

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Zimm #248393 02/23/09 12:48 AM
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Pick a price and features then look at the usual suspects we talk about, Denon, yamaha, onkyo, H/K, Outlaw, nad, etc. and go with the one you feel is the best bet. They all work extremely well and it is highly unlikely anyone would be able to tell the difference amongst anyof them at the same volume levels with in each amps limits(this is the key part). If you put a 100w/ch amp in a huge room and then put a 400W/ch amp in the same room and play each at 100db the 400w amp is going to come through with better dynamics/less distortion etc.


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Re: Receiver problem
jakewash #248396 02/23/09 12:56 AM
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What would you consider a "huge room"?


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SatKartr #248403 02/23/09 01:17 AM
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Between January and October 2006 Sony ranked #1 in retail audio sales in the U.S., so they must be doing something right. Actually, the ES line of receivers are probably decent units.
By the way, guess what company ranked # 2,


you guessed it - - - - - - BOSE!!
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Re: Receiver problem
lhulls #248421 02/23/09 01:44 AM
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That, my friends, is why companies spend so much money on marketing.


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Re: Receiver problem
SatKartr #248440 02/23/09 02:01 AM
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 Originally Posted By: SatKartr
What would you consider a "huge room"?
My guess would be around 4-5000 cu ft or more.


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Re: Receiver problem
Wid #248446 02/23/09 02:04 AM
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 Originally Posted By: wid

Unfortunately I think your best bet would be a more capable receiver. One of the recommended brands for the M80s like Denon, HK, Sherwood, Rotel.


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