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#314417 - 07/13/10 12:22 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: ]
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Yes, very helpful.
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#314419 - 07/13/10 12:30 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: Ken.C]
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Originally Posted By: kcarlile
So you think the v3 QS8s are noticeably better than the v2 QS8s?


Iím really not sure Ken. Iíve done the M22 vs QS8 test several times both in this room and my living room in my apartment and got the same results . . . that the further away the rears the less using the QS8s improved the rear soundstage over the M22s. Perhaps using the VP150 as a single rear speaker trained my ears to hear the rears differently since I had never used it back there before this. Other than that the only other difference I can think of is that the new QS8s are v3 so I just threw that out there.

I can say I donít hear any difference between the M22v2s and the M2v3s except as noted above.

I almost did a head to head comparison of my QS8v2 surrounds with the new v3 to see if they sounded different but I decided to wait until later this week or the weekend. That will be the definitive test of whether the v3 is the difference.
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#314420 - 07/13/10 12:32 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: JohnK]
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Originally Posted By: JohnK
Excellent, Dean. Also an indication that someone in a small room and/or sitting quite close to the mains should find the M2s to be excellent when crossed over to a good sub at 80Hz.


I agree. I think it also supports something I remember reading from a professional reviewer who gave kudos to Axiom for understanding that matching speaker size to room size can make a difference in perceived sound quality.
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#317826 - 08/07/10 01:22 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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I was going to wait about a week to see if anyone noticed the update to my signature but with my failing memory I will no doubt forget thus not giving credit to Charles (CV) for his generosity. I added the SVS AS-EQ1 to my lineup. The adoption papers were signed a couple days ago.

Iíve been dreading the PM from Charles asking for it back since it does such an outstanding job of EQ for my main seat which gets 95% or more of my use. However, Iíve been hesitant to pay full retail for one. Well Charles made me a fantastic offer which I couldnít refuse, no haggling or anything either, just a great deal up front.

So thanks Charles
Dean

P.S. I could take a slightly damaged EP800 of your hands. . . . wink
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#317833 - 08/07/10 02:38 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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Originally Posted By: grunt
P.S. I could take a slightly damaged EP800 of your hands. . . . wink


Ha ha, there are limits to my generosity.
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#317837 - 08/07/10 07:02 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: CV]
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We never know what they are if we don't test them, though.
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#317838 - 08/07/10 07:37 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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After thorough testing, you'll work out that the dimensions of my generosity form a perfect square. You just can't escape your non-sanctuary.
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#346752 - 04/30/11 06:34 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: CV]
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Well I finally got a computer to replace my 7 year old emachines. Previously my bottleneck for most uses was my slow internet connection but now with high speed the problem became processor speed and memory slowing things down.

So I picked up a Gateway SX2803-25e. Itís just a budget machine but Iím surprised what comes on budget machines these days. Itís only dual core, 6 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD. Integrated graphics but I was surprised to find an HDMI out. For audio it has both optical and 5.1 analogue.

Has to have been the easiest computer upgrade/install Iíve ever had. It took me longer to search through 4 boxes of miscellaneous cables and computer parts to find the 4th cable for my KVM switch than to have everything up and running; network, email, Firefox etc. . . . Iíll still use the emachines as a download manager while it lasts but for day to day stuff itís been benched.

Note that most people here probably wouldnít want this machine. Itís go no built in wireless (Iím wired only) and itís small form factor so upgrades are limited.

Now that I am running 4 computers and 4 different operating systems do I get my Geek Merit Badge.
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#346753 - 04/30/11 06:58 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
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Congrats on the new computer. I prefer wired connections, too. I just need more toys to use up more of my switch's ports.
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#346755 - 04/30/11 07:17 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: CV]
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Originally Posted By: CV
Congrats on the new computer. I prefer wired connections, too. I just need more toys to use up more of my switch's ports.


Yeah I wired because Iím paranoid. The only thing I connect wireless to my network is my Phone. Right now Iím using 3 ports on the modem, all 4 ports on the router, and 3 ports on the hub. Iím sure others have more but Iím surprised how all the wiring has proliferated. If I ever find a reason to take more pictures I will take a shot of my cable ďmismanagementĒ for those not faint of heart. Itís an awful mess. Not to mention I really need to run a couple more dedicated 20 amp lines to that room before it gets really hot.

Another thing I need really need now is a HDMI KVM switch. Now that this computer has an HDMI out I can ditch the VGA for day to day use and switch to HDMI which gives me a much better picture, and syncs up with the displays better. Iíll still maintain the VGA for some uses since the cables are already there and I sometimes like to monitor a couple things at once.
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