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#251677 - 03/14/09 08:53 AM Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option???
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Just curious if anyone has come across any "ceiling" brackets with tilt down ability, that are more affordable than the Axiom ceiling brackets? At $50+ ea. that is more than I would want to spend.

Of course you need the breathing room for the top driver, and the ability to hold the weight of the Q's.

Since my Q's are 7ft off the ground, I've always felt that if I could tilt them down it would help the experience. Sometimes I feel I'm missing some of the sounds as they are aimed above the heads of the listeners. Also, I plan to move my rears Q's back further.

thanks, Randy
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#251678 - 03/14/09 09:41 AM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: SirQuack]
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Well, I found this Omnimount 20.0 which holds upto 20lbs, comes in black or white. http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/763039417

Looks like Lowes home improvement stores caries them as well, may have to check them out. For $38 bucks at some online etailers, that is cheaper.

The problem may be that they fit speakers with a threaded 3/8-16 insert. If I recall, Axiom does not have that, I can't find any information anywhere on what Axiom uses.
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#251679 - 03/14/09 09:43 AM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: SirQuack]
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Well, I just googled it, and looks like Axiom uses a 1/4-20 insert, guess that idea just got flushed down the toilet.
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#251680 - 03/14/09 09:49 AM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: SirQuack]
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I suppose I would have to get a 3/8-16 to 1/4-20 adapter to make it work, why can't anything be easy in this world.


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#251683 - 03/14/09 10:36 AM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
I suppose I would have to get a 3/8-16 to 1/4-20 adapter to make it work, why can't anything be easy in this world.
Lol, that's the truth. I could have helped you a couple of years back, Randy, when I worked in the machine shop, easy to make then just send them to you. The biggest problem I see with some of the other brands of brackets is they only hold a couple of pounds, unfortunately. Someone out there must make some heavier duty ones though.
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#251701 - 03/14/09 02:19 PM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
[quote=sirquack]The biggest problem I see with some of the other brands of brackets is they only hold a couple of pounds, unfortunately. Someone out there must make some heavier duty ones though.


I hear Axiom makes some that work with the QS series for a bit more than the workarounds mentioned.
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#251720 - 03/14/09 06:06 PM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: Zimm]
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All things considered, it would cost more (alot) to get a M/C to make some one-off brackets unless you had some free time to make them. Looking at the Axiom brackets, they look more robust then most of the aftermarket types that seem more geared to smaller satellite speakers.
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#251737 - 03/15/09 01:34 AM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: Adrian]
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I seem to remember someone here posting some pics of their white QS's ceiling mounted with a longer mount than Axiom's, that simply screwed into the threaded insert. This was quite awhile back maybe in '04.

Found the post sadly the link to his pics are no longer working but the link the the mount is

http://www.racksandstands.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=OM0012&catid=12

He said they worked great and that he contacted Omnimount about the weight issue and they said the 10lb rating was on the conservative side.


Edited by jakewash (03/15/09 01:46 AM)
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#251790 - 03/15/09 02:40 PM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: jakewash]
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hmmm, that one comes with the 1/4-20 shaft, which would match the Axiom female threads...I'm just worried that when tilted it won't hold position from the weight of the Qs8's...
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#251852 - 03/15/09 11:33 PM Re: Affordable Qs8 brackets with tilt option??? [Re: SirQuack]
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
hmmm, that one comes with the 1/4-20 shaft, which would match the Axiom female threads...I'm just worried that when tilted it won't hold position from the weight of the Qs8's...


Randy, I did this same research on the Omnimount finding the 3/8" 20lb brkt. issue. Nice to hear the 10lb Omnimount wold probably hold, BUT, if you look at the diagrams of the 10 and 20 Omni's, you'll find the 1/4" SS 10's are about 2" shorter. That would give them essentially the same 2" (parallel) and 3"+ (tilted). If that works for you, I'd say it is a good way to go. Expescially if you find them in stock at Lowes. Easy to return if the socket has any problem holding the 13 lbs at an angle. Mount them, tap them a bit to see if the swivel ball moves. If not you should be good to go. For me, I want to mount them parallel to ceiling with maybe 5" top clearance. I have the space (vaulted ceiling), so why go with a min. possible top clearance, to me. For the height. If I decide I want to tilt, I'll consider the longer Omni 20's with an adapter.

I did not go at far as to look for a 3/8" to 1/4" adapter. Where did you find that one? (say Lowes! ;o)

I went to Lowes to look at the Omni's but totally forgot to look at them because I got side tracked looking to 'create' a mount I could easily swivel front to back. I thought the Omni 'ball' would need to be loosened to spin 180º, which I'd rather not bother messing with. My plan A will be mounting QS8 to a 1/2" galv. pipe which is threaded into a flood light receptacle cover, mounted to a ceiling rafter.

Randy, for you setup, I would consider either insertinf a wedge of the desired angle, made out of wood. You should be able to attach the wedge to the QS8 with a 1/4-20 bolt, then just use two or three screws through your existing (nice looking) shelf brackets. The wedges painted black, I think would look good. You could even paint them gloss black to match the nice covers over your shelf brackets. Just a thought.
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