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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
tomtuttle #252666 03/19/09 07:54 PM
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Elemental Designs is now offering a sealed 18" unit.

The unit I have has a hole in one end.

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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
pmbuko #252667 03/19/09 07:56 PM
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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
tomtuttle #252673 03/19/09 08:13 PM
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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
pmbuko #252674 03/19/09 08:14 PM
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
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Elemental Designs is now offering a sealed 18" unit.

The unit I have has a hole in one end.


No comment as to size?


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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
jakewash #252704 03/19/09 11:30 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I beleive the general consensus is sealed is better and the Fathom F113 is quite possibly the best one out there.

The concensus in the DIY community, if there is one, is that large ported is the best. The problem with sealed is that you need EQ and a LOT of power to get a sealed sub to extend really low. That usually introduces distortion.

For example, the MaelstormX 18" driver, because of its high linearity, is very well suited either to a 22-24cu.ft. ported enclosure tuned to 12 Hz, or a sealed enclosure.

Ported, it will have a -3db point of around 12Hz (lower in room), and will hit 113 db at 12Hz with 500w of power applied.

Sealed it will have a -3db point of 30Hz. at 20Hz it will be -8db and at 12 Hz -16db. In order to flatten the curve, you will need to apply EQ, which very quickly introduces distortion. Also, as the driver needs to move more to displace more air for lower frequencies, it needs more power to overcome the natural damping of the sealed enclosure.

The long and short of it being, you get more out of a good driver in a ported enclosure.


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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
fredk #252705 03/19/09 11:48 PM
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24 Cubic Feet?!?! Seriously?

That is very interesting, Fred. Do you believe it is *possible* to get decent output below 30Hz with a sealed box?


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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
tomtuttle #252706 03/20/09 12:22 AM
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Yeah, it will do well in a very large box.

I can't say from first hand experience, but there are a few people that have used highly linear 18" drivers in sealed enclosures that get very good output into the teens. It just takes a lot of power and a very linear driver.

I would always go for a ported sub. If this economy ever recovers I will dedicate some OT$ to a 12ft. cu. ported sub.


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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
medic8r #252726 03/20/09 02:34 AM
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No comment as to size?

18" was a little unbelievable, so I leave it up to your imagination.



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Re: Anyone heard a SVS PBUltra or PCUltra VS Axiom
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