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Help! I just received my M60s as my zone 2 speakers. I know these speakers carry plenty of bass and sound great w/o sub since I have already listened to them in zone 1. The zone 2 room is large (25 x 35) with high ceiling (22+) that sounds from the M60s were simply getting "lost" (diminished low, pronounced high). Any suggestion on what I can do to improve the sound? The room has hardwood floor with multiple large area rugs. In addition, there is a crawl space under the floor.
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How much have you played around with positioning? That's where I'd start. After that, you can try to tame the room with acoustical treatments. Also, out of curiosity, how much amplification are they getting?
I'm not going to be the most help, but any additional information along these lines will help out the people with more knowledge who will end up reading this.
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How are you and with what are you powering them in zone 2, seperate amp, off the same amp but assigned zone 2?
Sounds like a bit of a power/signal loss going on.
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Welcome Jack:
That's a big room to not have a sub. I think any essentially full-range speaker would sound bass-shy in a room that big as the built-i woofers really can't pressurize the room.
How big was the room they came out of?
::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::
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I am powering these M60s using zone 2 from a Denon AVR-789. I don't typically listen to music in high volume. I think the Denon has ample power for my need. However, those signals do have to travel from one end of the house to the other on a 14 gauge wire across 2 sets of binding posts.
In my big room, the speakers actually sound better in moderate volume than high volume since I am losing bass like crazy.
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Thanks.
I was going to purchase a pair of Definitive BP7006 with built-in sub. However, I didn't because I thought the M60s have plenty of bass. I now think about it, I am not even sure if a sub will help in a room like this. In addition, I thought of getting a pair of M80s instead but again I may run into the same situation.
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Thanks.
I tried a few spots where I would like the speakers to be. There was a spot where the speakers seemed to sound better but unfortunately not much better. I am curious to know if mounting these speakers higher will help. Or may be have 2 pairs of W22s mounting on the wall instead of having a pair of M60s on the floor?
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You definitely will not gain bass by going to the W-22's. A large speaker would be better for a room of that size. Do you have an option to borrow a sub from a friend or local shop just to see if that's a move in the right direction for you?
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I have a sub for my zone 1 where the home theater is. I can borrow that to see if it helps. Unfortunately, my Denon amp does not support a sub in zone 2. I think I have two choices: Get a second amp and a second sub for my big room; Or get a pair of speakers with built-in sub. Unfortunately, Axiom does not make something like that.
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