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I tried to find as much information about Trinnov as well, it had my curiousity. There is an audioholics interview on youtube, but that is about it... I'm sure it will be fine, only time will tell..
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Yeah, the good news is that I'm not in a major rush to replace what I have, so I can wait for user opinions and professional reviews. Here's hoping it lives up to the promise.
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Randy, your initial findings with Audyssey was how I described it as well, it is also about the same difference I noticed running the A1400 vs the 3808w/Audyssey, only the A1400 was much better at bass, overall feel of the music, hard to describe the differences I heard. I will say that I liked the A1400 by itself rather than with Audyssey through the 3808, at least for 2 channel listening.
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I have to think the 3808 is about to get real cheap once the new models come out. I may have to join the group. Randy, do you think the 3808 is putting out a cleaner signal to your amps, as compared to the 2XXX?
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Have not tried my amps with the 3808 yet, the 3808 sounds great. With my 2805 there was minimal difference at low to moderate levels. Where you noticed the amps was when you cranked things up, in my opinion. ![smile \:\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) One thing that is frustrating, and maybe it is just me, but on my 2805 remote I could cycle through music/cinema/games mode when set to Dolby PLIIx mode. Seems to be a little difficult figuring this out on the 3808, so far I have to go into the GUI to change it manually, which sucks. Also, I need to get a HDMI cable to go from my HTPC video card to the Denon as I only have one to the projector. I'm currently using Component out on the Denon to my projector...
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Randy, Congratulations again. As you know, I'll be staying tuned to your thoughts and feelings with the new 3808. Do us a favor and do some critical as well as loud listening thru just the 3808 so you can contrast it to with your amps. Note: JohnK, ignore the next two sentences! ![wink ;\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Your test might not reveal this, but I am curious of reports some make of better SQ with jumping from even modest AVRs (1909) to the 2809 and 3808. I'm asking similar to Charles question, do you perceive any SQ improvement over your 2805?
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I will say with my limited music listening at this point (been focusing on Audyssey ![smile \:\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) ) that I do think there is something different (in a positive way) on how the 3808ci alone sounds compared to my 2805.. I don't know if it is the DACS, the beefier amp section with 7 isolated channels, or what... The first CD I played was Rush Moving Pictures. This was after I calibrated everything to 75dB's, like my 2805. In addition I was using Stereo mode with all speakers to small and 80hz crossover at the time. At this point I had not enabled Audyssey yet (that is a different positive story). With the 2805 and the old Sony CD player, I always thought some of my CD's sounded a little thin, without much bass bunch, and to much in the high frequencies. With the 3808ci I immediately noticed some differences. Explaining them is difficult. I don't think it was my brain, as it had not broken in yet. ![wink ;\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) The bass seemed tighter with more impact, and the higher frequencies seemed more crisp. I don't know, maybe it was just wishful thinking, or my brain playing tricks on me. I don't really have a way to do a true AB blind test, and not sure I'm going to worry about it...
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Don't worry about it. I know I wouldn't in your position! ![wink ;\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) Enjoy the new purchase. ![smile \:\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) You know me, Mr. analysis paralysis just digging for more (perceived ![wink ;\)](/boards/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif) )info.
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The price point aside, how does the Denon 3808ci compare to an Onkyo tx-nr906.
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