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#264820 - 06/29/09 12:02 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: casey01]
gary135r Offline
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Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 42
Loc: Maine
Quick review so far. Have not played a Blue -Ray disc yet but the music side of the player is awesome. I did not know what I was missing with my other SACD player. DSOTM sounds incredible. I just have on issue. The HDMI avenue to play SACD discs will not play, I have to route them through my analog cables. I assume it's my AVR's fault as everything else plays fine. I am calling Oppo just to make sure it's not the player's fault. Going to throw in the Dark Knight tonight seeing that I heard that is the standard to judge Blue-Ray players by. Only thing is my TV will only support 1080i and lower but it is still HD. SD DVD's are an improvement also, even though my last player was no slouch in the upconverting game.
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#264822 - 06/29/09 12:16 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: gary135r]
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Registered: 06/23/07
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I have the same player, and I was under the impression that in order to play SACD you have to use the analog connections; could be wrong though. As far as SD DVDs go, the Oppo upconverting is comparable to their 983 which was the best in the business.

It's an awesome player, enjoy!!
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#264828 - 06/29/09 12:43 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: gary135r]
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Registered: 08/27/07
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Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada
Make sure the output of the player is set to at least 720p, otherwise you cannot obtain hi-res multi-ch sound.

Also make sure that, if you are trying DSD over HDMI, that your receiver supports it (HDMI 1.2+).

In any case, Oppo should be able to help you properly!
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#264830 - 06/29/09 12:50 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
casey01 Offline
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Registered: 07/03/08
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Loc: Toronto

As long as your AVR/Pre-pro is one of the latest in HDMI connections (1.2 and up) you can play ALL the formats including SACD and DVD Audio thru HDMI. With the 3808 which, I believe, is 1.3 compatible you can set the player for PCM thru the HDMI connection or if the AVR has DSD capability you can set that in the player and the receiver will do the decoding. I have a Marantz which has DSD capability, and to my ears anyway, I like the DSD sound a little better for SACD's than the PCM setting in the player itself.

The Oppo BDP83 gives you three choices of audio set-up.

1. 7.1 analog via LPCM in which the player does ALL the decoding.
2. LPCM thru HDMI in to the AVR in which the player ALSO does all the decoding.
3. Bitstream in the player thru HDMI in which the AVR does ALL the decoding.

I have not experimented with number 1, but in listening to 2 and three, I can't hear any difference(with BDs) so I assume number 1 on the list will be equal to the others, you are just saving hooking up additional cables. One of the reasons I have shied away from the analog hook-up is because of the limitations of bass management in most players, including the BDP83. You generally only get one crossover setting which may or may not be to your liking or even practical. Your AVR gives you considerably more flexibility in that area with the digital(HDMI)connection.

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#264831 - 06/29/09 01:03 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: gary135r]
EFalardeau Offline
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Registered: 08/27/07
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Additionnal: The BDP83 that you have may not contain all the latest firmware updates out of the box. There were a lot of features that were not enabled initially, but were put back as Oppo finished fixing everything or were confident after a lot more testing.
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#264839 - 06/29/09 04:46 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: EFalardeau]
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
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Loc: Up yonder
If you use HDMI with a 1.1 receiver, you will need to set one of the Oppo audio output options to PCM verses DSD (I know I saw this, but don't recall where). It will decode the DSD to PCM.
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#264850 - 06/29/09 05:55 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: michael_d]
HomeDad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
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Loc: Central,California
I'm playing SACD's with the Oppo through HDMI and they sound great.
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#264852 - 06/29/09 05:57 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: HomeDad]
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Registered: 03/23/09
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Loc: Yuma, AZ
I'm also playing SACD's on my Oppo through HDMI and I agree it sounds great.
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#264914 - 06/30/09 03:36 PM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: casey01]
gary135r Offline
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Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 42
Loc: Maine
It is definitely an issue with my Harmon Kardon. Talked to Oppo and Alan. Hooked the 83 to my TV and the sound was fine. Good news is the analog sounds great and when you set the receiver to 6 channel DVD you get bass management. Alan said the sound loss is negligible and it is the recording that makes the real difference. Watched the Dark Knight last night and even though my receiver is only HDMI 1.1 I got wall rattling sound from my EP 400 & 125 which wasn't the case before with my old player.
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#265307 - 07/04/09 11:31 AM Re: Oppo BDP-83 on the way. [Re: HomeDad]
cgrface Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 150
Loc: St. Louis, Missouri
 Originally Posted By: HomeDad
I'm playing SACD's with the Oppo through HDMI and they sound great.
HomeDad, which reciever/prepro are you using?
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