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Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26777 12/06/03 12:43 AM
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does the Jedi have little kids?

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26778 12/06/03 12:47 AM
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Call me a peacenik, but I couldn't buy something named after a nuclear missle.

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26779 12/06/03 01:04 AM
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aw, come one... What if I told you that gyroscopes used in missile navigation circuitry are also known as rotels?


Well, I'd be talking out my a**, but it sounds possible, doesn't it?

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26780 12/06/03 04:38 AM
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does the Jedi have little kids?




Not any more. They're 17 and 15. 10 years ago I had to worry about my speaker domes being pushed in. Now I have to worry about where the volume level is when I turn my system on.

Mark


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Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26781 12/06/03 08:34 AM
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Not any more. They're 17 and 15. 10 years ago I had to worry about my speaker domes being pushed in. Now I have to worry about where the volume level is when I turn my system on.




Yeah...I am where you were 15 years ago. My kids are 6 and 4, they still do not know that the speaker grills come off....but they do know how to use TiVo!

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26782 12/08/03 01:57 AM
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6 & 4 and they can use Tivo? Pretty smart kids. You are starting them out right. Make sure they never catch you removing the speaker grilles!

Mark


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Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26783 12/20/03 11:17 PM
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I bought myself the 563a for Xmas today. It's sitting under the tree, still in the box, unwrapped. Now for some more axiom speakers.

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26784 12/21/03 05:51 PM
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Take it out of the box and put your old DVD player in the box. Maybe no one will notice, and you will be able to enjoy it now.

I was going to buy one this week until I got an amazing deal on a pair of speakers, which ate up my extra money for another week.

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26785 12/21/03 07:01 PM
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It's too late for that. The wife already hid it on me. She says she is going to wrap it and pretend it's a surprise.

Re: Pioneer 563a or ?
#26786 12/29/03 07:07 PM
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I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I was quite unimpressed with the SACD performance of the 563a. My wife also bought one for "us" this Christmas, and it's being returned tonight. SACD's did not have the same luster that they did with my older 5-disc Sony DVD/CD/SACD player (DVP-655). Let me say that I truly dislike the Sony player (it's been in for service twice and still locks up from time-to-time), so I was terribly excited about the prospect of banishing it to the guest room and using the 563 as our primary player in the Den. In fact, I was totally ready to be biased in favor of the Pioneer, almost no matter what. My receiver is a Pioneer Elite 43TX so I was also happy about having the same brand components as well.

Back-to-back comparisons with between SACD's yielded quite a difference. Cymbal clashes on several SACD's lost quite a bit of definition, details heard (YoYo Ma's breathing, for instance, on his Solo Cello SACD) weren't there anymore. And where did all the warm mid-range go? Yes, I double checked to make sure the speaker-size management was set up correctly, but it sounded like it was routing next to nothing to the subwoofer channel, even after adding +6db (the max it will do) to the subwoofer. Yes, we were listening to the SACD layer too. Perhaps if you have more full-range speakers it would better, or if you used an ICBM to route the bass correctly, but in my standard 5.1 connected, m22 + sub setup I found the sound unimpressive and weak. Still, it simply didn't sound as fine as the old Sony does (sigh).

I didn't even bother to test CD and DVD performance, so I can't comment on that.

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