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Re: Floor standing or in wall speakers?
mikecoscia #273168 09/24/09 08:49 PM
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 Originally Posted By: mikecoscia
OKay here is a quick render of what the wall should like when I am finished. I did floor standing speakers not wall mounted M22s, it actually does not look that bad. Although the speakers will stick out a bit, guess they will just be furniture accents...lol.



I'm sure that with the dual-subs and AV rack that will eventually work their way in there, the floor standers will look right at home! \:D

Re: Floor standing or in wall speakers?
BigHonu #273182 09/24/09 10:50 PM
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That looks like a great setup.

Is is my imagination or did you shelving from around the fireplace? What a clever way to stop your SO from forcing you to put bookhelf speakers in an enclosed space. ;\)


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Thanks for all the positive encouragement guys! I think I am def going to go with the M60's. Also think the fire place is going to look great flush up against the wall with minimal trim.

HOWEVER, I am a little concerned about how far the center channel is going to be sticking out. The speaker is 7.5 inches wide, I will be putting a false wall up so the fireplace will sit flush, but the wall will only be 4" thick. I could make a cut out for the center speaker, but I still will have 3.5" stick out above the fireplace. Although I think it might be even with the TV anyway, you figure the thickness of the TV, plus wall mount, it will easily be over 4" from the wall, so the speaker will be even with it.

Just wish I could mount everything flush, but the chimney is preventing me, only have 4"s of depth with the false wall before hitting solid brick. Ah well, should still look good!

Re: Floor standing or in wall speakers?
mikecoscia #273193 09/25/09 07:47 AM
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Rather than in-wall mount a VP150 why not use the W150 as the in wall portion looks to be on y 3.5 inches deep.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/wallspeakerw150_main.html

It looks like it has the same specs as the VP and it’s designed to be wall mounted. I think it will certainly look better sticking out of the wall than the VP150. Since the VP150 is already enclosed (no ports) I don’t think you would really be loosing anything by switching to the W150 which might actually sound better sticking out of the wall than the VP150 since that’s how it‘s designed to be mounted. Also looks like they‘re the same price.




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grunt #273195 09/25/09 07:58 AM
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I thought about that grunt, just worried about the sound difference. When I do finally order these speakers, I'll talk to axiom about it and see what they say.

At this point just need to figure out how much that VP150 is going to be sticking out, as the TV will be sticking out anyway, esp with the mounting hardware.

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mikecoscia #273197 09/25/09 08:21 AM
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I think contacting Axiom is a good call. I almost never recommend in/on-wall speakers but in your case I think a dedicated W150 would work better. However, two considerations would be portability (if you plan to use it elsewhere on a stand at some point) and resale should you ever want to get rid of it the VP would probably be easier to sell.


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Re: Floor standing or in wall speakers?
mikecoscia #273202 09/25/09 03:26 PM
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Mike, in case it helps - my plasma is on a Sanus non-tilt wall mount and distance from wall to front of tv is 5 1/2" (I just measured) The tilt option would put the TV out further.

My W150 and 22's are ~4" deep from wall to front of grill.

Also when I was deciding on my purchase I had questions on VP vs W 150's - Alan assured me they sounded 'similarly well' as I believe he terms it \:\) . Of course, call Axiom and get the expert recommendations.

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AS the VP series is not ported I can't imagine the sonic qualities changing much from the W series to the VP series.


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cb919 #273226 09/25/09 09:04 PM
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Well its something to think about. Thanks for the measurements, I looked up the thickness of the TV (3.9" at its widest), and 2.5" for the tilting mount. So 6.4", however tilting the TV downward will less the bottom half of the TVs distance from the wall to around 4-5", which is exactly what the amount I am expecting the VP150 from sticking out.

My only concern now is the fireplace looking retarded flush against the wall, while the TV and center speaker protrude a few inches from the surface of the wall. Maybe I should build a simple mantle, or see how it looks first, can always build one afterwords.

Re: Floor standing or in wall speakers?
mikecoscia #273528 09/29/09 06:09 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with that arrangement. In fact check out the picture of my set-up...



Compared to your sketch...



You'll notice there isn't a whole lot of difference between yours and my set up (remember those are M80's in my picture, which are 2 inches taller than the M60's in your sketch... oh and I don't have a creepy teenager eyeballing my equipment), except that my VP150 is hanging from the ceiling ABOVE the tv as many on here have warned against. But I'm blown away by the sound, I sincerely don't see any problem with having the center channel above the tv (which in both my case and yours allows us to place the tv a bit lower) as long as it's pointing towards the listener.

But take this advice with this grain of salt... for I've never tried the center channel below the tv. So for all I know if I ever did try it down there, there is the chance that I would find it sounded 1000 percent better and would forever warn all others away from ever hanging their center channel from the ceiling above their tv's!!!!

But if you hang it from the ceiling first without ever trying it below the tv like me, then you wind up finding out what Cypher realized in the 'Matrix'.... "ignorance is bliss"!!! \:D

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