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Hi Nick,
You want to use a "constant-impedance" selector that will prevent the impedance of multiple pairs from falling below 4 ohms.
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Sorry my ultra-sensitive touch pad posted this before I finished. . . Niles has an inexpensive one--the SS4 should work, so long as your Onkyo doesn't have an ultra-sensitive protection circuit that shuts things down when it senses a 4-ohm load. Older Onkyos use to do that but I think the newer ones are better. Here's a link to another switcher that keeps impedance no lower than 4 ohms: http://www.escience.ca/hobby/RENDER/0001/21/3030/13076.html Regards,
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Hi,
To answer your question, the lower-priced ones have internal resistors which waste power but keep the impedance from going below 4 ohms. Those should be adequate if your speakers in the other rooms are not intended for super fidelity.
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Alan,
The internal resistors would waste the power if more than one pair of speakers is being used, or does this happen all of the time? If this happens only when more than one pair is being used at the same time then I don't really care, because I plan to rarely use it that way. I do have a good set of Aperion audio speakers that I will be mounting in one room that I would like to get a nice sound out of though.
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Hi Nick,
I think it would happen only when more than one pair of speakers on the switcher were engaged. It wouldn't be a big power loss. You could order one and try it out temporarily with a couple pairs of speakers to see if it works OK and doesn't cause your Onkyo to shut down.
My comment on the fidelity issue is based on the idea that the resistors may interact with the impedance of the speaker in an unpredictable way. This is speculation on my part based on comments from Axiom's chief engineer, Tom Cumberland, when I asked him about multiple speaker hook-ups and constant-impedance switching devices.
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Hey Alan, Can you recommend something that one could use for doing Blind A/B testing between speaker brands? I assume it would have to be a speaker slector with some type of dB level matching ability? Oh, and it would have to be cheap. WAF Randy
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Randy,
The tech guy at Axiom built one for me, so I'm not up on where you'd find a commercial unit. I'm sure they're available. On my switcher, the adjustment for different speaker sensitivities has a limited range, but enough for the differences in Axiom models and some other brands I have kicking around for comparison purposes. Mine will only accommodate two pairs of speakers-- "A" and "B."
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So you've never been able to tell if C is better or not? Tss. Not professionnal!
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And I'll bet that all this time, "C" WAS the kick-ass choice, and we've all suffered because of Alan's laziness / cheapness in not getting an A/B/C switcher.
Damn. I was gonna buy him a beer someday if we met.
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Ha ha! "C" is a Bose!
No, I hire a real musician to sit in my living room and play the same music that I'm using to compare A and B. When I point to him, he starts playing on cue. . .
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