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Have you calibrated the 37"?
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Re: M60 vs M80
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Not yet. Just played around with the settings a bit. I have Digital Video Essentials: HD Basics Blu-ray (2008), but haven't had the time to do it yet. I used it on the smaller TV, but wasn't pleased with the results. I ended up using the "Standard" pre-set instead. If anyone knows of a better one, please let me know. But, I don't think calibration will take the light out of the black bars and remove the occasional grayish overcast from the screen in a dark room.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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"Movie" is usually the closest to what you actually want. The color temp should be Warm or 6500K.
You really need to use a disc to get the Brightness and Contrast set ideally. It takes a little practice, but once you understand what you're trying to do, it's easy to dial them in.
A disc and a blue filter are both required for the Color and Tint, but they are a little harder. The biggest problem is the blue filter is just that, a filter. Like all real-world filters it isn't a brick wall. It lets come colors other than blue through, so it's technically impossible to get the Color and Tint 100% judging only with the blue filter. But you can get them close.
Additionally: See if there's a backlight level control. Turning that down can help with light bleed in the black areas.
Last edited by ClubNeon; 11/20/09 03:44 PM.
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Removed content due to this info pertaining to a particular computer monitor and not my TV.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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All my pro CRT video monitors have a blue-gun only mode for color bar calibration. Does anyone make a consumer monitor with a blue-only mode?
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I wish. My old Sony I could go into the service menu and turn off the red and green guns (made it a little hard to see the menu after that to turn them back on). But that makes setting the color and tint a cake walk.
Some displays have a User Color mode. It may be possible to turn the red and green down to 0, while leaving the blue the same as it would be for the 6500K setting. This doesn't always work right. If the color bars look really wrong, then don't bother to try to set it using this technique. But if they look close, you're in luck.
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I've been doing some searching on Samsung panel problems. It appears that they sometimes use off brand panels that have backlight and off-angle viewing issues like I'm having, and that Samsung quality is not what it used to be.
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That's hard to believe. I don't know what "off brand" means exactly, but my understanding is that there are only a small handfull of LCD panel makers out there,...Samsung, Sony, Sharp(others?)...and THEY are the ones who supply other co's with "off brand panels". Samsung and Sony have a huge investment in their joint LCD developement so I doubt if they would be using other companies for panels...I can't carve that in stone, but it just doesn't sound right to me that they would use an outside source for something they invested so heavily in.
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Honestly, when it comes to things like this, I think anyone can Google "problems with X Product" and receive lots of hits. I think that the people that are unhappy with something are the most vocal, and then others chime in because they "read it somewhere".
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be unhappy with your TV...for all I know, it really sucks... but I don't know if I'd trust something like that.
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I know you can't believe everything you read on the internet. But when a 30,000:1 has a much better picture quality than a 70,000:1 by the same manufacturer, then it seems that "something" is amiss.
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