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Funny thing is this whole “Climategate” scandal has been reported for years. I first read about it in one of P. J. O’Rourk’s books, I think it was “Eat the Rich.” He relates the story of a major climate researcher giving a talk at the climate summit in Rio. When referring to the interpretation of climate studies to his fellow “scientists” he said that each of us must decide whether to be “honest or effective.” It’s only recently that the mainstream media has been forced to even talk about the issue.
BTW, O’Rourk’s books like “Eat the Rich,” “Give War a Chance” and “Parliament of Whores” are all great reads.
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If anyone dug up climategate-like info between say, a couple of companies like Suncor and Exxon, the media would have been all over them like a fungus.
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Grunt,
Yep, and the suspicions have been there for ages. Of course, we now have the confessions (and their own source code) in their own words, which is just sweet. I'll add those ones to my reading list.
Just FYI - the media here in Australia gave climategate a fleeting couple of minutes on a morning show and that was it. Many Aussies and Kiwis have no idea about it (or it's impact). We still have a PM quoting Al Gore.
Meanwhile, we've been getting snow falls in the middle of summer down here in Victoria (after about 4 days of +40c temps). I just love global cooling.
Still, when my speakers arrive I can recluse into some great movies. I can't wait to see what the last few scenes of "The Island" sound like....
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When I lived in New Zealand in the mid 80s I noticed the news coverage was just a tad slanted to the left. While I met plenty of Kiwis who were conservative, mostly military and cops, most of the others I met were decidedly left. Now that may have been a byproduct of dating university age girls. The Nuclear Free Zone thing was big news when I was there. Carried a slight anti-U.S. sentiment with it also, but when I talked with people about it they had no real understanding of the issues it was purely an emotional thing for them. I wonder if the rise of the internet has opened up some minds or are they as many do just searching the new to validate what they already want to believe.
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Hi Grunt,
I hope you enjoyed your time in NZ (I am a NZer). Yes, there was and is a very strong left emphasis there, I suspect this is becoming more pronounced as many Kiwis leave NZ for Australia and other places like we did. This used to be a temporary thing, but has become much more permanent now. Most of my immediate family have "skipped the ditch" now.
NZ is a really beautiful place and well worth a visit. It just seems to be losing a lot of working class people.
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Loved my year and a half in Wellington. Despite an attitude from the occasional young lefty I felt no real animosity toward the U.S. when I lived there unlike some other counties. On the contrary the older generation was very positive toward us especially because of the Marine Corps presence during WWII.
I really liked the lifestyle at the time. Wellington got it’s first super market and AFAIK drive through restaurant while I was there so the pace of life was still nice and laidback. There’s something to be said for knowing you’re butcher, baker, dairy delivery man and brew master while not living in a small enough town that everyone knows your business.
I especially enjoyed the Wellington Hash House Harriers. One of the best Hashes I’ve ever been with.
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Climategate.... sigh
Why do they call controversies or scandals [term]-gate? The Watergate scandal had nothing to do with water....
I drove by the Watergate Hotel this afternoon. Made me think of this.
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The same reason I call every girl I like Mrs. Tharp, even though they'll have nothing to do with me. It's just fun.
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You are an interesting person.
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The same reason I call every girl I like Mrs. Tharp, even though they'll have nothing to do with me. It's just fun. You should try calling them by their given names and they might want to have something to do with you
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