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#291723 - 02/10/10 11:51 PM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Wid]
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I believe those Cantons might also be a 4 ohm speaker which could be stressing the amp some if you're running them as rears with the 80's. My M80's sound nice within the limitations of my Denon, but there's a point where you can hear things start to get a little ragged(loud!)...probably a combination of overpowering the room if not the amp.

Also, try towing the speakers inwards a few degrees to see if that helps. Best advice, Imo, is to listen to them for a couple of weeks to get used to them before you do some serious, critical listening.
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#291724 - 02/10/10 11:52 PM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Wid]
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 Originally Posted By: wid

How do the Cantons differ from the Axioms sound wise? Make sure you do as noted above by David. That will ease up on the receiver. I would also forget the bi-amping too. Less of a load for the amp to drive.

Hi Rick,
Sorry I'm quoting the wrong ppl. Just getting used to this posting thing.
The Canton sounded brighter. And never clipped my Av before.
I'm surprised about biamping; because the "guy" from the audio place said; "it's always the best way of doing it".

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#291725 - 02/10/10 11:56 PM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: groy67]
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Try and not biamp them and see if there is a difference, I highly doubt it. Those Cantons do drop into the 4 ohm range also. You could be hearing the amp distorting with the M80s, hence a harsher sound.
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#291726 - 02/10/10 11:56 PM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
I believe those Cantons might also be a 4 ohm speaker which could be stressing the amp some if you're running them as rears with the 80's. My M80's sound nice within the limitations of my Denon, but there's a point where you can hear things start to get a little ragged(loud!)...probably a combination of overpowering the room if not the amp.

Also, try towing the speakers inwards a few degrees to see if that helps. Best advice, Imo, is to listen to them for a couple of weeks to get used to them before you do some serious, critical listening.


Thanks Adrian I will try that. Also, just checked my Cantons have Nominal Impedance of 4 to 8 ohms

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#291727 - 02/11/10 12:05 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Wid]
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 Originally Posted By: wid
Don't believe what the "audio guy" tells you. He's there to make money, we are not. Yes set to small and cross the M80s at 60 or 80HZ. Same with the Cantons if you have not done so.

Hope I wasn't insulting; as it was not my intention?
I have not tried that and would never in a millions years would known to try it. I'm going to give it a shot. Thank you
Just want to mention this site is great! Everyone eager to help.
Thank you very much!

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#291728 - 02/11/10 12:09 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: groy67]
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Oh no, you said nothing wrong. Sorry if I came across a bit harsh.

Just wondering why you went with two different brands of speakers? You could have saved some serious money going with the Axiom QS8 for surrounds.
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#291732 - 02/11/10 12:20 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Wid]
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 Originally Posted By: wid

Oh no, you said nothing wrong. Sorry if I came across a bit harsh.

Just wondering why you went with two different brands of speakers? You could have saved some serious money going with the Axiom QS8 for surrounds.


Well, I have some Canton GL series for my rears and I wanted something bigger and better I guess. It gets a little addictive I think. lol -I bought the Canton Chrono series for the fronts as I had PSB before. Then I lloked on line for reviews and specs and came accross Axioms; well the rest is history. Like I said I'm kind of addicted of getting the best sound. lol I need help ;\)

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#291735 - 02/11/10 12:27 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: groy67]
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Gerry, the M80s(and all Axioms) are a revealing speaker as well, so if the source is poorly recorded, that's what you'll hear. On the other side of the coin, a well recorded cd will sound wonderfull.
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#291736 - 02/11/10 12:33 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Gerry, the M80s(and all Axioms) are a revealing speaker as well, so if the source is poorly recorded, that's what you'll hear. On the other side of the coin, a well recorded cd will sound wonderfull.


Yes, the Axiom are a beautiful speaker and the fun part is tweeking a new toy. I will tweak away and try to get the best out of the speakers. Tomorrow... when the family is up I will try to implement all your advise. And I'll take your advise and make sure I'm using a quality recording.
What do you think of using an Spl meter and tunning CD? Just curious.


Edited by groy67 (02/11/10 12:34 AM)
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#291737 - 02/11/10 12:40 AM Re: 4 ohms M80 with Nad T765 [Re: groy67]
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I don't own an SPL meter, but many guys use them with great success. My receiver has Audyssey which some people love and some hate....it seems to work for me, but someday I'll get myself a meter/test tones and try doing a comparison.
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