Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo Upgradeitis

I haven't heard either, but the anecdotal evidence seems pretty clear!

Never?!

What would make a real improvement in your enjoyment of those classical CDs would be to listen to the surround ambience mixed into the front channels in surround speakers. One of the fine HT receivers, such as those from Denon or Onkyo, can apply DPLII to extract the ambience and send it to surrounds, such as QS8s, where it belongs. This is how I listen to the thousand or so classical CDs that I have and I'd never voluntarily limit myself again to listening on only front speakers.

Seems to me that if there were significant sonic differences (which apparently there are) between speakers in a same model line with different versions Axiom should at least release some sort of a published timeline list of the different versions and the benefits. The only information I can ever recall hearing about regarding the different versions (or year models) and their differences always comes from here on the message board, I'd like to hear it straight from the manufacturer.

You'll probably be hearing something before much longer. Until then, you can always send Allan a PM.

FWIW, I thought differences in their repsective frequency graphs for the Ti and V2 models were significant enough...

Is this considered a significant difference?

From a 2002 review of the M80T1 ... (Almost Excellent!)


And from Axiom's current page on the M80v2 ...

I am merely the messenger.

Aren't those graphs 2x6 posted for the M3Ti's and not the M80Ti's?

All I did was google Axiom M80Ti frequency graphs and the above article with the pictured graph came up ... I am merely the messenger.

Hi all,

I sent Asher a PM asking for the serial numbers of his "ti" M80s but no response so far, so I'm posting here.

With the serial numbers, we can check at the plant to see if his "ti" M80 already has the changed crossover.

Believe me, if you are a critical listener, there IS a difference between the original M80ti and the later version (Summer/Fall 2003); large enough that when we did double-blind listening tests between the old "ti" M80 and the new "ti"--almost everyone at Axiom participated in the tests--the new "ti" crossover won, and it became a much smoother and more linear speaker, especially in the midrange, which I was very critical of when I joined Axiom. So the new crossover was introduced Summer 2003 and along with other mechanical changes, the new M80s were renamed the v2 in 2005.

You can't just judge the sound quality of a speaker on one on-axis anechoic frequency response curve; it's really a matter of looking at the overall family of curves and making a judgment call. Sometimes just 1 dB of difference in the midrange, where our hearing is most sensitive, in the on-axis and off-axis curves, will make a surprisingly large change in the sound of the speaker in the listening tests.

Regards,

Alan

I wonder if Axiom would sell the V2 crossover to owners of pre-2003 M80s for owners who might want to change, as an option to selling then buying the latest version(I'm assuming the drivers haven't changed too much, if any...tweeters?).

....produced the smoother and more linear midrange performance that become part of the M80 v2.