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I for one am looking forward to HDMI 1.4 with a net connection. And will get an AVR when available. All the gear I have has a network connection and I can't believe the amount of cables in my rack. Just a bunch of HDMI connects and some speaker wires and Im in. Ill have to replace a bunch of equipment over the long run, but still think its a good move So what, 4-6 extra ethernet cables is worth the HDMI handshake issues? And you have to know there will be limitations set on that ethernet under an the HDMI config. I run a 10/100 switch behind all my equipment and it in turn feeds to my main switch in my basement. I make my own cat5E cables to the exact length I need for better management, a few extra cables is no big deal to me. I hope HDMI 1.4 takes a long time before it gets picked up as the standard, sadly I know I am soooo wrong.
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Re: Outlaw Model 997 cancelled
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Just a bunch of HDMI connects and some speaker wires and Im in. Ill have to replace a bunch of equipment over the long run, but still think its a good move Sure it's a good move. Until HDMI 1.5 comes out and you have to replace everything again.
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I view Ethernet over HDMI as I do CEC. CEC could be useful for people who want less remotes, but don't want to invest in a universal. Ethernet over HDMI could be useful for people who want their equipment networked together, but don't want to invest in a hub/switch, and cabling.
Does CEC work? Sort of. It's better with newer equipment, from the same maker. But a universal remote is better.
Will Ethernet of HDMI work? I'm guessing it'll be the same boat. I don't think it's inside the HDCP encryption, so at least you won't lose your connection even time you change channels. But a switch is a lot more flexable because it's a true star topology, rather than the point-to-point of HDMI (although if the receiver is able to function as the hub, for both upstream and downstream (sources and displays) then it'll mimic the star pretty well.
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I would argue that CEC will never really work since it wasn't standardized and since every manufacturer seemingly has their own implementation. I won't upgrade my gear simply to get ethernet over hdmi but I do think it is a move in the right direction and a feature that people will apreciate. As with anything, only time will tell if it will really work or if it will fail. At this point, on paper, it looks good to me.
Personally, I'm still looking for a quality home wireless router that has a gigabit backbone. 100mpbs is just too slow to use for transferring large files.
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Plenty of wireless-n routers have gig-E built in.
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I say they just jump straight to HDMI 2 with 20 extra wired built into it to future proof it. They'll find uses for the extra wires over the years, but until then we won't have to continually upgrade our wires every other year.
Although I'm quite sure Monster Cable just loves being able to sell the same consumer a new $150 dollar HDMI cable every time the technology changes.
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And receiver, TV, and BD manufacturers love selling consumers a new $1000 item every year, too.
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Personally, I'm still looking for a quality home wireless router that has a gigabit backbone. 100mpbs is just too slow to use for transferring large files. DLink and Linksys are no good? I just bought the Linksys WRT 310N and have no problems and the gigbit ethernet works great. I run my main and 2 others directly off of it and run the HT stuff off the 10/100 switch as I do not stream video through to that stuff yet.
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There's also the Apple Airport Extreme or various Netgear models. DLink is no good.
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I run a separate switch (actually two, one in my bedroom with the computers, the other in my living room with the entertainment equipment) from my router.
So it goes, router with Internet connection with one of it's ports connected to a gigabit switch, and then one of those ports runs to my living room's gigabit switch.
I've upgraded switches, but still running the same router over the last few years. Well, the same model, I had one completely fail, but that was also easy to replace without upsetting the rest of my network.
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