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#303598 - 04/28/10 12:08 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: pmbuko]
St_PatGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7403
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Yes, and multiple different interconnects and power cords!


Sadly, I really do have a tube buffer.
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#303608 - 04/28/10 01:06 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: St_PatGuy]
defuentes Offline
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Registered: 04/26/10
Posts: 12
Hi, I took the pics of my room so you get a real idea of the layout, I hope this helps:


TV taken from behind the main sitting position.


Movie collection on left wall.


Right wall.


Pic taken from further back.


Component Rack.


Main siting position taken from the front.

I know it's not the greatest camera! But I appreciate anyone with comments, suggestions & advice for my situation in both the new speaker layout and on the sub.
Cheers and thanks.
Eduardo.

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#303617 - 04/28/10 02:58 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: defuentes]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
Nice looking room and congratulations on getting so much in there and organized well.

Based on your pictures I’m sure you won’t get much benefit from height speakers. While it’s going to be tight I still think you would most benefit from using wide speakers but looking at your pictures it might be a closer call as to which works better for you, wide or rear speakers. I have a feeling the only way you are going to know for sure is to try it out.

As a test if the wires are long enough I would move the rear speakers to the sides of your main seat on either wall even with or a little behind the main seat if the door isn’t in the way and aim them about at the table in the center of the room. Then move the side speakers forward to about where the front of each side couch is and aim each one at the closest side of the main seat. Then reconnect them to the appropriate outputs on the receiver and play with the positioning to see how you can get it to sound.

I still think you would benefit by trading up or buying QS speakers to use as surrounds. The reason I mention buying is that some day you will likely end up with a 9.2 or 11.2 capable receiver and from looking at your room I think you would get even better results using both wide and rear speakers. I’m not a big fan of rear speakers except in certain situations and with how spread out your seating is I think they would allow you to get better 360 degree surround sound especially for your side couches by using wide, surround and rear speakers.

Actually if you just move our M3s around you may find you like the improvement enough to put off even getting QS speakers for now and just enjoy what you have until you do eventually have to get a new receiver again.

As for the subwoofers I would go with HSU. Emotiva subs are to new and have no independent reviews or measurements that I know of. As for ED I’ve recently read a couple of threads over at AVS where people have had issues with ED quality control and then customer service when trying to get things fixed, here’s one of them.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1242263

I realize that all companies will have their complainers but it’s just something to consider especially if you have to deal with warranty issues from Mexico. Also I saw your subwoofer thread over at AVS and was wondering if you found any of those subwoofer manufactures had local dealers to ease the cross border shipping hassles?
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#303620 - 04/28/10 03:51 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: pmbuko]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Loc: Nirvana
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Are you bringing your tube buffer for grunt to try out?


I’m pretty handy with my tube buffer thank you. Only possible stand-in would be my carpool buddy.
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#303647 - 04/28/10 11:41 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: grunt]
defuentes Offline
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Registered: 04/26/10
Posts: 12
Hi Dean, thank you!! I'll move all my speakers to accommodate wides, I haven't had that great a result with back surrounds, I've had them for years and I haven't found their effect that engaging, sometimes they even distract me from the action in front. What I'll try is get 2 stands fro the front speakers and put one exactly on each side of the TV, move the rack a little to the right to make that space and leave the TV centered, and as you say put the wides pointing at the main sofa where the front of each side couch is, and even move the side surrounds a little to the back, well as far as the door allows, and after getting the new sub configure everything, run Audyssey and test that for a while, I can always move things around again!

About the subs, I've hear great things about HSU all around and they´re the only ones that have a distributor in Mexico, it's not in Mexico City it's about 2.4 hrs away but it's probably better, I'm going to check it out...
Thanks for all the help!; I'll be posting back progress and all...

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#303651 - 04/28/10 11:55 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: pmbuko]
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Are you bringing your tube buffer for grunt to try out?
You guys are still talking about audio gear right? ;\)
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#303652 - 04/28/10 11:57 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: jakewash]
defuentes Offline
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Registered: 04/26/10
Posts: 12
Hi: I forgot to post prices, which is also something to consider, including shipping and customs/taxes:

Ultra 12 $727.11
eD A3-250 $660.00
HSU VTF-2 $818.41

What do you think?.
Thanks.

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#303653 - 04/28/10 11:59 AM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: defuentes]
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17775
Loc: NoVA
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#303654 - 04/28/10 12:01 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: defuentes]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8288
Loc: Tacoma
What a cool room! I love the built-in shelves for the video library!

At the risk of not paying adequate attention to your stated current wants, I want to suggest - very strongly - that your entire system could benefit tremendously from experimentation with speaker placement.

The pictures are VERY helpful!

I would try to get the mains symmetrically placed next to the TV. Having the right speaker up so high and in a corner has got to be doing very bad things to your imaging.

I would try to move the coffee table back a bit to give the center speaker a bit more clearance.

And I can't imagine that you are getting very good use from the rear speakers since they are firing directly into the headrest of the couch. If you can position them higher somehow, that would probably make a world of difference.

I think getting QS8's for the surround (side) speakers would also make a big difference.

But really - before spending a lot of extra money on speakers (height, wide or replacement) I would spend quite a bit of time positioning what you already have. I'll bet that you can achieve the spacious soundstage you are seeking just be rearranging some things.
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#303656 - 04/28/10 12:01 PM Re: New HT Room Advice [Re: defuentes]
jakewash Offline
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Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10398
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
I think you would like any one of them, but being a PB13 Ultra owner, I vote for the Ultra 12 knowing SVS quality first hand. but I have never heard anything bad about Hsu subs nor eD, I think for the price the eD is best bang for the buck.
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