Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Anyone ever try Sunny tires or Cattivo rims?

I need to pick up some summer wheels / tires for my truck. I usually just buy winter rims and tires and run the stock wheels in the 'non ice' months but I don’t like the wheels that came with the truck and use them for my winter tires… So it’s been a few years since I’ve had to buy rims or summer tires. Back in the day when had race cars in my driveway all the time, my default was Centerline wheels and stickiest Mikey Thompson tire I could find for the track that was still street legal. I’ve never had anything but Centerline wheels for my truck either (when I’ve bought them anyway). I have been doing some research on rims / tires and oh boy…. I’m lost. I had no idea there were so many companies making wheels. Good grief. And tires….. Same thing. Dozens..

So I ran into a kid that works at a high end customizing shop. He’s a good kid who does fantastic work. He’s trying to make some extra cash and has worked out a deal with his boss to use his bosses business to buy a bunch of rims and tires through him. I like the kid and want help him out.

Well, the wheels he has that look good to me are a brand I’ve never heard of. They are Cattivo. The model of rim is the 724 and 22” X 9.5”. They are coming with Sunny tires. Not sure what the tire model is other than they are light truck tires, 305 / 45 / 22. They’ll fit, but are they junk?? Are these wheels junk?? Only thing I can find are that they are made in China.

It disturbs me that your proposed truck's tire aspect ratio is lower than my sportswagon's.

Also, never heard of either manufacturer. Sunny certainly doesn't sponsor any racing I watch; those tend to be the mfrs I go to, for whatever reason. Probably because I'm intensely susceptible to advertising.

Last tires I bought for my Silverado were Toyo Open Country, excellent tire...I've put around 50,000 kmtrs on them so far, tread shows very little wear, and the tires improved my fuel mileage slightly. The tread is more of a highway tread, they are quiet and return better mileage than my previous Firestones(were also good, put 125km on them). They actually have good directional stability due to the two deep channels in the tread, but they do lack on the traction side as they are not particularily aggressive.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with either of the companies you mentioned, Michael, but make sure you do your homework if they're "offshore".

I've never heard of neither, but it doesn't surprise me.

China seems to be making a lot of tractor trailer truck tires these days, during the summers we deal with semi-trailer load after semi-trailer load of dry fertilizer and last year I noticed during some of our down or refueling times that all of the fertilizer trailer's tires had all sorts of weird names and they all came from China.

My introduction to Chinese made tractor trailer tires.

I run and am very happy with the Nitto Terra Grapplers on my pickup truck, and I run the stock rims.

Mike, I don't know anything about truck tires, but checking TireRack for that size, this one seems to be rated most highly in the Surveys and Reviews sections.

Good lord, just when the thread was about to get good with folks sharing personal accounts of which is the baddest, meanest, coolest, best mud boggin', street racing and Dukes of Hazard style ramp jumpin' tires'n wheels ... John comes along with reasoning and common sense.

Where's the sense of fun and adventure in that?

Hu... well I figured as much. This is a package deal. The tires come with the wheels and I can't change the brand. That's why I asked the question. I figured it was worth a shot that someone here would have either used, or heard of these brands.

Well seeing how no one has heard of these, we might as well talk about mud boggin' Rick.

Ken - Sportswagon?? Is that an oxymoron? Sport - wagon...

Sportwagon (N): Short minivan with a spoiler.

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4243

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/09q4/2010_audi_rs6_avant-first_drive_review

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6601307/auto...rlds/index.html

Guess which one I own.

I'm going to guess you had a blue car, and now you own a silver one.

Strangely accurate.

Uh....Volvo! I bought one of my X's a Volvo S60R (by meaning, she got it in the divorce and I got to pay it off). Way too damn small for me to get in / out of without a lot of cussin' but I sure liked the seats. I wouldn’t mind having an S80 in AWD. I like them a lot more than any other sedan and think they are under rated big time. The rally too.

Me, I want the Audi. Unlikely to happen in this lifetime, though.

Mike my wife has an S80 and she really loves the car, she's had everything from BMW's to SUV's over the years and this is the best car she has ever owned. Bridgestone is the set of sneakers on it, with factory rims.

I'm afraid my truck tire expertise comes in on the oversized, over-expensive, wife hates them kind of styles. Can't help you with the size your looking for. For a profile like that, I'd say just spray some of that DIY bedliner on a flat wheel and be done with it.

Tires and wheels are what I do for a living, I like to think I am pretty knowledgable on the subject... I work for a large online company.

Sunny tires in a word, are cheap tires. You really cannot get any cheaper along with a few other chinese brands that float around. I don't want to call them unsafe, but keep in mind these tires have no enginering put into them... Literally none. They copy a tread design, find cheap materials, and go to work. For an example, Car and Driver did a test about six months ago with about eight different tires, one of which was a cheaper Chinese tire. Around a little 60 second autocross track they made, one of the better tires (Michelin PS2) was faster in the wet than the Chinese tire was in the dry. Cheaper stuff also doesn't tend to balance or hold its balance nearly as well. There are several products for not much money which are actually decent, such as Kumho or Falken, it doesn't make sense to buy the uber cheapies IMO.

I've never heard of the wheel brand you are looking at, but if they are chrome, just keep in mind you'll have to take care of them. Most aftermarket wheels are made in Asia, until you start getting to fairly expensive product, but the real cheap stuff will have problems with the finish if it is neglected really at all. They also will not stand up to potholes and the like as well. I probably sounds like a salesman but wheels are tires are something that you really do get better product for the more money you spend.


EDIT: What kind of truck do you have? Keep in mind also a 45 series at a 305 width is really not a small sidewall at all, that is equivalent to a 60 series or so at 215 width. A lot of these guys selling pre-done packages for vehicles are not using the proper tire size, they'll have 22" packages with three different tire sizes which they want to cover 50 vehicles, and it's just a lot of the time not the proper way to do it.

Hmm... large... online... company... who could that be?

Glad to hear that I wasn't completely taken in by my Kumho tires.

Yeah. That is what is on my wife's Kia Sedona, so I am glad to hear that they are not lousy quality.

Just to add my 2 cents: I haven't heard of either one.

Not who you're thinking

Yeah, since Nathan is in Vancouver, I'd hazard a guess that a Canadian operation such as Tire Trends would be more likely than Tire Rack, for example.

08 GMC Sierra Denali, AWD. Stock tire is a 275, 55, 20”.

I just can’t find anything positive about these rims or tires. I’m going to take a pass I think. Considering I tend to do a fare amount of low altitude flying, I ain’t gunna risk it.

Just my 2 cents, but that's to nice a ride to put cheap tires and rims on. And that's not even factoring in safety.