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Re: Load times
grunt #306997 05/18/10 05:08 AM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
I know you’re not looking for a BD player Ken but I just saw this.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/trans...n-dbp-1611ud-fl


It definitely looks like a nice player, as long as they didn't mess anything up. If the reviews are good, I may even replace my OPPO. I like all of the streaming options.

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Ah, 3 pages of discussion and dissent. Perfect!

How about the older Oppos? I'm not jumping on the BD bandwagon just yet--I don't think they'd work all that impressively with a 27" CRT--so I was toying with the idea of a used Oppo something or other. I don't really need a changer any more, since it's all on the GASP iPods...


I know you’re not looking for s BD player Ken but I just saw this.


http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/trans...n-dbp-1611ud-fl


Nice, looks very promising. Still curious as to the scaler though...

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I'm thinking the same thing. I need (want?) a new BD player sometime soon but this would look good to me only if it has a decent scaler.

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It's a shocking price from Denon reguardless of the scaler, but it it has a top rated scaler, I'm going to pass out!


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Re: Load times
Micah #307031 05/18/10 02:18 PM
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I have both the Oppo bdp83 and the PS3. The PS3 has faster load times than the Oppo on Blu-ray's. But, the Oppo is fast enough that if you prefer the features of the Oppo then you will not be disappointed. So, between the two just decide which features you prefer and don't decide based on load times.

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 Originally Posted By: CV
 Originally Posted By: grunt
I know you’re not looking for a BD player Ken but I just saw this.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/trans...n-dbp-1611ud-fl


It definitely looks like a nice player, as long as they didn't mess anything up. If the reviews are good, I may even replace my OPPO. I like all of the streaming options.


The upconversion of that Denon won't be able to compete with the Oppo bpd-83. Also, the Oppo has the blu-tv feature which looks like has the ability to add apps to stream many different things.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/blu-tv-brings-interactive-iptv-to-disc-players-starting-with-th/

Look at the Netflix icon on the TV display in the link. I don't know why Oppo hasn't taken this further yet though.

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Nick B #307038 05/18/10 02:42 PM
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Denon is using the same scaler as Oppo in some of their products already. It's still yet to be seen which scaler is included in this lower model.

Also, Anchor Bay is being given a run by a few other scaler chips now. The Marvell Qdeo is something to watch out for as it starts to show up in products.

Forgot to add. Blu-TV isn't an Oppo thing, it's another company, who don't seem to be progressing with their tech at all.

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Re: Load times
BlueJays1 #307047 05/18/10 03:16 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
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The Oppo BD 83 is almost as fast as the PS3.


I don't have a PS3 but I have read some load time tests that compare the two that say the complete opposite.


And your point is? I'm full of shit maybe?

I have and use both.


I guess so. People that own both have done tests that have been documented on the internet and they state otherwise. During the beta stage of the BDP-83 the PS3 was documented at slightly higher load times on average except for when using chapters and it seems Oppo has bested them with sucessful firmware updates. All you state is one is faster without any factual evidence as opposed to other people that have exact seconds of load times of different players with a wide variety of disks. Thats information I am going off of. Do you do firmware updates on your players?

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/blu-ray-...s-powering.html


Ya, I figured as much. I feel no need to time my players. Those that do need to get a life, much like those that cling to their testing results. From the moment I walk up to each player that is powered off, till the time I see something on my screen, the PS3 is faster. Not by much, but fast enough that I don't need a stop watch to verify. And yes, I keep firmware up to date on all my machines. I have a laptop for that very purpose that rarely leaves the theater unless I'm using it for vehicle diagnostic testing and tuning.

Ken - what is it again that you want? I'm selling my DVDO VP50pro and Oppo 981. The 981 is modified for SDI. Spectacular up-conversion for SD-DVD with this combo.

Re: Load times
michael_d #307056 05/18/10 03:54 PM
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Michael, I'm mostly trying to figure out if replacing my current DVD player with something that was faster and easier to use would actually cause my family and I to actually watch DVDs--just that, plain and simple. The Yamaha changer I have is slow, clunky, hard to access, and has miserably bad controls.

While someday I hope to have an HDTV, it's likely to be small, due to monetary, room size, and WAF constraints.

Someday my CRT will die...


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Ken.C #307059 05/18/10 04:01 PM
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