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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
Bakajon #308242 05/27/10 07:29 AM
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Yes, surround sound is an essential element of Home Theater.

By the way, Audioquest calls those cables "Copperhead" because that's apparently the variety of snake oil that they pumped into it to sell the stuff. Don't be fooled by the charlatans of the wire world. Deal with low-cost suppliers such as MonoPrice.


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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
Bakajon #308243 05/27/10 07:32 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Bakajon
Now unfortunately it seems I will need an audio amplifier. my current set up are self amped ones. I am using a bluesky mediadesk 2.1 which is a very pretty setup but I think my amplifier is about to go bad on me.


I was going to originally ask if the budget was for speakers only or if you'd need a receiver. JohnK, what's your current recommendation for an inexpensive receiver?

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Probably this factory refurb Denon 589 for about $144.


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JohnK #308258 05/27/10 03:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Yes, surround sound is an essential element of Home Theater.

By the way, Audioquest calls those cables "Copperhead" because that's apparently the variety of snake oil that they pumped into it to sell the stuff. Don't be fooled by the charlatans of the wire world. Deal with low-cost suppliers such as MonoPrice.


Yes, JohnJ. There are plenty of charlatans in the wire world and the audio industry in general. Unfortuntely the internet and the audio press/media has enabled this sort of quackery from vendors for a long time and still continue to do.


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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
BlueJays1 #308270 05/27/10 04:47 PM
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Ah I see. Okay that's pretty helpful to know.

I kind of thought the 200 dollar king cobra cables they sold were a little crazy. BUT I will say that the copperhead cables were an upgrade over my monster cables in terms of quality, and I only paid 45 dollars for the pair so I was not totally ripped off eh?

Interesting refurb amp. How long do amps usually last?

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Bakajon #308271 05/27/10 05:01 PM
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Okay, so the receiver looks really sweet for that price actually. -tosses in cart- I almost want to just buy that one now and sort out the rest of the details later.

My only question about it tho is like, the v22's use more than 75 watts right? Of course I would never want to drive them to full power realistically, that would hurt right?

Just not too sure if 75 watts per channel is sufficient is all, what do you all think?

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Bakajon #308272 05/27/10 05:06 PM
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$45 for a pair of cables isn't too bad as long as each one is 22.5' long. This would make them on par with Axiom's own excellent speaker wire, otherwise you still paid too much for them and let's not bring up Monoprice's own 12 gauge wire which is even cheaper but less flexible ;\) As long as you are happy with those wires that is all that matters, no matter what they cost.

An amp should last forever, well pretty close. Most refurb avr's are in better condition than the originals, IMO.


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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
jakewash #308277 05/27/10 05:46 PM
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Hey Bakajon

My room is about 10x20 and I'm running M22 Mains, and QS8 Surrounds. No Sub, No Centre and a Denon 1910 at 90W / channel. I was on a tight budget when I bought.

Yes, I agree, surrounds are more important than subs unless you're using a cheap Home Theatre in a Box. My M22s alone put out better bass than my old "1000W" Sony HTIB with a "sub". Between the M22s bass and the Denon's Phantom Center, I don't feel an immediate need for a sub or center.

The M22s will pull 200W per chanel according to specs. However, 90W Denon ARV-1910 more than fills my room and I've *never* had to turned it up to full power. -13 seems to be the sweet spot. Anything over that really *is* uncomfortably loud! 75W should be enough for your needs.

Side note, I bought my Denon from Dakmart also.

All my cabling is from MonoPrice and a local store.

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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
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 Originally Posted By: snazzed

The M22s will pull 200W per chanel according to specs.


Just to be clear speakers do not PULL power out of an amp, speakers offer resistance (4, 8, 16 ohms etc) to power flow. The amp feeds them power and in this case the M22 can handle 200W per speaker without failing; as long as it is clean power.


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Re: How would I build an axiom home theatre for 1kish?
jakewash #308283 05/27/10 06:47 PM
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...and power becomes less clean the closer you get to the output limit of the amp.


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