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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
bdpf #310101 06/11/10 05:38 AM
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Bruno, there's no validity to that sealed/ported comparison that you mention. The only factor established by that design consideration is the rolloff below the enclosure tuning frequency(12dB/octave for the sealed sub, 24dB/octave for the ported one). Other individual design characteristics establish the quality of the reproduction, which should be good for music, movies and music in movies.


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
tomtuttle #310104 06/11/10 06:48 AM
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Well I decided for the price of $509 plus $60 shipping to go with the HSU VTF-2 MK3. For my room the and the price it should be plenty of bass. I'll let you know how I like it when it arrives. This leaves some money left over so I can start saving for the emotiva upc-5 and preamp!


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
DreamTheater #310107 06/11/10 06:58 AM
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You should be very happy with the Hsu sub.

I saw someone said they were unsure of eD. They have been big in the auto subwoofer game for many years and have been getting rave reviews of their home products since they entered the market a few years or so ago, they do know their stuff.


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
DreamTheater #310108 06/11/10 07:09 AM
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Very good, Erik. Enjoy the sound(and the extra $130 you didn't have to spend).


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
JohnK #310112 06/11/10 10:33 AM
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You're going to be very happy with the Hsu, they make very nice subs.


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
bdpf #310143 06/11/10 04:50 PM
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Bruno, I am extremely happy with my Empires! As mentioned, there is not any validated data to show ported or sealed are better than the other for movies or music. I do now prefer the sound I get from the sealed subs when listening to music/movies. I have not done any A/B ported/sealed comparisons as I just built a dedicated HT and the Empires are the only subs I've listened to in this room. I have both located up front, firing towards the sidewalls, between my M80's and equip stand. No problems at all. There is an Epik thread on AVS which is quite informative just watch out for fanboys! Many people have been surprised and impressed with their performance. I have not performed any measurements yet, but I have ordered an Antimode 8033 sub eq and will take before and after measurements. I have never been one to rely on graphs because once you start you will never stop. If it sounds good to your ears, in your room, what does it matter what a graph states??? A lot of people want graphs to solidify a decision, or to know they are getting the most of their system which I can appreciate.




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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
Wid #310144 06/11/10 04:54 PM
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I'd love to see a head to head with the A5-350 and the EP500 personally. I didn't really dig a whole bunch into subs before I pulled the trigger on my Epic 80/800 system. I'm certainly not saying I regret my purchase, as I am more than satisfied with the EP800. But let me just say IF I would have been on a stricter budget, I think eD would definately have been the road I would have taken. They look to have an incredible range of subs from which to choose from, and each of them look to be more than worth their cost.

The one advantage I can see with Axiom subs is that the bigger ones do reach down VERY low indeed. Someone asked if you thought you could actually tell the difference between 16 and 18 hz.... maybe not, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the EP800's claim to dig down to 13 hz isn't a snake oil claim. This monster does things to this room that I've never experienced with anything else, including that JL beast Shane brought over. I can feel things that I've never felt in a movie theater or anywhere else for that matter. I personally feel that there is a trade-off however when it comes to a sub tuned to reach 13 hz, than it might not hit the upper notes quite as hard. I may be wrong, but the JL seemed to really hit me in the chest a lot harder than the 800 does.

But for movies, deep is good! \:D


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Re: Finally upgraded my bass.
Micah #310149 06/11/10 05:06 PM
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I wonder how this would sound paired with an EP350, or EP500?

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