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Re: Alice in Wonderland
Micah #310492 06/16/10 06:44 AM
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Oh and who in the hell nominated D9 for a damn Oscar? I thought that movie was majorly 'middle of the road' material. Nothing ground breaking, no new concepts... pretty much just your standard 'aliens arrive on earth, get treated like shit, military want's them dead, but they prevail anyway' type movie.

It should be pretty much obvious to everyone by now the way Hollywood portrays aliens. If in the beginning of the movie the aliens attack earth, then you can expect by the end of the movie we shall annihilate them. But if in the beginning of the movie the aliens come to earth peacefully (or by accident as is the case 50% of the time), then throughout most of the movie our military (which will be completely riddled with the biggest assholes this planet has ever seen) will try their damndest to annihilate the visitors, but will ultimately fail because the aliens are just too darn cute.

If there has been an alien movie made that didn't follow one of these two formula's, I haven't seen it.







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For those of you who haven't seen D9, it falls into catagory 'B'.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
Micah #310494 06/16/10 06:53 AM
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While I agree that District 9 wasn't the greatest movie, I don't really see it falling into the category you're saying it does. But yeah, the story's not the greatest, and I'm not a fan of the overall tone. I still wish the director had had the opportunity to make the Halo movie.

Re: Alice in Wonderland
Micah #310495 06/16/10 06:54 AM
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Actually, most alien movies are more along the lines of:

Big evil aliens try to take over/eat/destroy humanity. Hero with big guns comes in blazing and saves the day. Humanity triumphs.

D9 is good solid scifi. I thought that the movie was an accurate portrayal of the politics of crisis.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
fredk #310498 06/16/10 09:14 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Micah

should be pretty much obvious to everyone by now the way Hollywood portrays aliens. If in the beginning of the movie the aliens attack earth, then you can expect by the end of the movie we shall annihilate them. But if in the beginning of the movie the aliens come to earth peacefully (or by accident as is the case 50% of the time), then throughout most of the movie our military (which will be completely riddled with the biggest assholes this planet has ever seen) will try their damndest to annihilate the visitors, but will ultimately fail because the aliens are just too darn cute.

If there has been an alien movie made that didn't follow one of these two formula's, I haven't seen it.


“Men in Black” where we help (officially at least) the aliens who came here, but your point about how the stories usually run is well taken.

I agree that D9 was way overrated in getting an Oscar nomination. Which IMO it only received because it was an anti-apartheid movie in a quasi science fiction wrapper.

The thing that turned me off the most about D9 was the pseudo-documentary style. That makes it impossible for me to suspend disbelief and get involved in the story. I’d have rather watched a History Channel documentary on Apartheid since I would at least have come out of that more knowledgeable.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
grunt #310501 06/16/10 11:09 AM
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If you haven't seen Idiocracy, I highly recommend watching it. It's a very humorous and accurate portrayal of society in the future.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
Ya_basta #310503 06/16/10 01:35 PM
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Idiocracy was OK, but kind of annoying. Maybe that's the point. Anyway, it's a great concept that didn't make a great movie. It would have been better as a skit on an SNL-type show.

Mike Judge still hasn't topped Office Space, one of the great cult classics. I had hoped Extract would live up to that standard, but it was very ho-hum, like Idiocracy. Seems to me that he has been in decline for a while. Guess that happens when your first movie is so awesome. I call it the M. Night Shyamalan Syndrome.

I also thought that District 9 was pretty good, but not Best Picture good. I think grunt is on the money with his politics at the Oscars theory.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
medic8r #310504 06/16/10 02:07 PM
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I didn't realze 'Extract' was done by the same guy who did 'Office Space'. I really liked 'Extract', but admittedly, it wasn't as good as 'Office Space'.


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Re: Alice in Wonderland
Micah #310506 06/16/10 03:17 PM
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