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#318692 - 08/15/10 11:00 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: grunt]
fredk Offline
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I agree with Dean. I listen to music quite a bit louder with my M80s. For fun, I should try to get my micro system up to the 85db I often listen to music at.
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#318695 - 08/16/10 12:39 AM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: fredk]
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Another thing, using one's ears to judge relative sound pressure levels isn't going to be accurate. I'd be curious what an SPL meter says about the playback levels of the two sets of speakers with the knob set in the same position.
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#318732 - 08/16/10 02:49 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: ClubNeon]
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I think it is the fact you are used to a 'wall of sound' that a lesser speaker will produce over the more detailed sounds from better speakers. You are used to a bloated lower end and to achieve a similar feeling for the music you turn the volume up. I went from Bose 201's to M22's and experienced this sensation but I didn't need to turn the volume up as much as you have described.

As Chris has mentioned it would be interesting to see on an SPL meter if the speakers are playing the same volume levels att he much different settings.
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#318736 - 08/16/10 02:58 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
I think it is the fact you are used to a 'wall of sound' that a lesser speaker will produce over the more detailed sounds from better speakers. You are used to a bloated lower end and to achieve a similar feeling for the music you turn the volume up. I went from Bose 201's to M22's and experienced this sensation but I didn't need to turn the volume up as much as you have described.

As Chris has mentioned it would be interesting to see on an SPL meter if the speakers are playing the same volume levels att he much different settings.


That makes sense.
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#318742 - 08/16/10 03:33 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
I think it is the fact you are used to a 'wall of sound' that a lesser speaker will produce over the more detailed sounds from better speakers. You are used to a bloated lower end and to achieve a similar feeling for the music you turn the volume up. I went from Bose 201's to M22's and experienced this sensation but I didn't need to turn the volume up as much as you have described.

As Chris has mentioned it would be interesting to see on an SPL meter if the speakers are playing the same volume levels att he much different settings.


I think you and I use the term “wall of sound” differently as I consider the M80s to produce a “wall of sound” that is also quite detailed. In that they can sound like there is a concert performance right in front of me while simultaneously each instrument and singer is discreetly placed including hearing musician’s fingers sliding along guitar strings.
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#318743 - 08/16/10 03:37 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: grunt]
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Originally Posted By: grunt
I consider the M80s to produce a “wall of sound” that is also quite detailed. In that they can sound like there is a concert performance right in front of my while simultaneously each instrument and singer is discreetly placed including hearing musician’s fingers sliding along guitar strings.



+1 For my M80's and my Dad's M3's

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#318749 - 08/16/10 04:14 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: a401classic]
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That's 4 times the "B" word was used here in print.

I though that was disallowed! Unless, like 901's, one wears their underwear backwards.
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#318750 - 08/16/10 04:15 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: BobKay]
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#318751 - 08/16/10 04:18 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: BobKay]
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That's an early Roy Orbison song, isn't it Bob?
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#318752 - 08/16/10 04:18 PM Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers [Re: jerrymb]
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Kudos to you Jerry for the effort you are going through. As I wrote before. Take full advantage of the 30 days and look at all your options.
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